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dagger_2

Tim, can you recommend any beds that have springs but that dont make a springy sounding racket when you move around on them at night ;-)

both of our last two beds have made creaking noise and I hate it.

current one is silentnight miracoil with memory foam top layer (was okay for first couple of months but now too noisy)

Tim_Deegan

dagger wrote: »

Tim, can you recommend any beds that have springs but that dont make a springy sounding racket when you move around on them at night ;-)

both of our last two beds have made creaking noise and I hate it.

current one is silentnight miracoil with memory foam top layer (was okay for first couple of months but now too noisy)

This is one of the many problems with the Miracoil spring system (which is made by Silentnight). The other main problem is reliability. Kozeesleep used to have their own version of Miracoil, but stopped making it due to the noise and reliability.

The quietest spring system is pocket sprung because each spring is encased in it's own fabric pocket, and works independently from the others.

AfternoonTea

Hi Tim

I posted this over in 'want to buy it/do it' :

I was so looking forward to replacing our very uncomfortable mattress, but after reading many contradictions, I am now more confused than ever

We have a slated bedstead and need to know the most suitable mattress to use with slats. Memory foam sounds brilliant but I don't fancy any extra heat it may create.
We are interested in a couple of mattresses, both heavily reduced in price this week at Costco and would appreciate any advice/recommendations.

There is a Sealy Mirrorform/Memoryform which 'I think' is all foam (no springs) but wonder about the lifespan of such a mattress? However in it's favour are several layers to deal with airflow to disperse heat/moisture

Also a Rest Assured 2400 Pocket Latex, however I read that pocket springs are not suitable for slats and that such a large number of springs can mean smaller/weaker springs?

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Would be very grateful for your thoughts

Tim_Deegan

AfternoonTea wrote: »

Hi Tim

We have a slated bedstead and need to know the most suitable mattress to use with slats. Memory foam sounds brilliant but I don't fancy any extra heat it may create.

As long as the memory foam is no deeper than 2.5", and it is constructed from springs under memory foam then you should have no problem at all with heat.

AfternoonTea wrote: »

We are interested in a couple of mattresses, both heavily reduced in price this week at Costco and would appreciate any advice/recommendations.

There is a Sealy Mirrorform/Memoryform which 'I think' is all foam (no springs) but wonder about the lifespan of such a mattress? However in it's favour are several layers to deal with airflow to disperse heat/moisture

To be honest most of the layers that are supposed to deal with airflow are just gimmicks. They are usually channels throug the foam that are supposed to allow air to circulate. The trouble is that as soon as you lie on the mattress the channels will be squashed.

The life span shouldn't be a problem though.

AfternoonTea wrote: »

Also a Rest Assured 2400 Pocket Latex, however I read that pocket springs are not suitable for slats and that such a large number of springs can mean smaller/weaker springs?

I can't find the Rest Assured 2400 Pocket Latex, but did find the one with 1600 springs. It appears that the mattress is non turn, which can reduce the life of the mattress. They will advertise the fact that it is non turn as being a feature, but the truth is they have just made it cheaper to manufacture, and it won't last as long.

As for it being suitable for a slated base, this all depends on how the bottom of the mattress is constructed. However there are ways around this problem.

The main reason I personally wouldn't by this mattress is the make.....do you know they are made by Silentnight?

Just out of interest, how much are Costco charging??? In my experience many items aren't very cheap, and you could find them far cheaper on line.

AfternoonTea

The Sealy Mirrorform is £592 and the Rest Assured is £578 (both kingsize and after discount). I didn't realise that Rest Assured where Silentnight

We really dont want to have to adapt the base, but were told pocket springs are not suitable with the slats

The Pocket Latex also says 2400 springs including 1400 mini springs for extra comfort, but I'm now doubting most of these features, or as you say gimmicks

With all the different choices and information I now have a headache as well as the usual back/hip ache, ha ha ha!

CloudRuler

I was tempted to buy a Silentnight memory foam mattress but the one I wanted wasn't available in a single.

Bought a Breasley Flexcell 1000 memory foam mattress with a coolmax cover, tried the 700 but I thought I might as well go with more memory foam seeing as they offered to match a price I'd already seen online for the 1000 which was only £10 more than they were selling the 700. It's 10cm of memory foam and I haven't had any problems with heat at all.

Tim_Deegan

AfternoonTea wrote: »

The Sealy Mirrorform is £592 and the Rest Assured is £578 (both kingsize and after discount). I didn't realise that Rest Assured where Silentnight

We really dont want to have to adapt the base, but were told pocket springs are not suitable with the slats

The Pocket Latex also says 2400 springs including 1400 mini springs for extra comfort, but I'm now doubting most of these features, or as you say gimmicks

With all the different choices and information I now have a headache as well as the usual back/hip ache, ha ha ha!

I would never pay £592 for a reflex foam/memory foam mattress. The rest assured seems a better price as long as the springs last.

How far apart are the slats?
Normally for pocket sprung only I'd recommend no more than 1" gap. However if the mattress is pocket sprung with memory foam on both sides then the memory foam helps spread the weight out so you can allow up to 2" gaps. All I did with my pine slatted bed was add a few more slats to close the gaps up to 1". If you can't do this because the slats can't be moved then you can lay sheets of peg board (hard board with loads of holes) over the slats.

Yes the mini springs are just a gimmick, and probably serve no purpose apart from pushing up the price.

Tim_Deegan

CloudRuler wrote: »

I was tempted to buy a Silentnight memory foam mattress but the one I wanted wasn't available in a single.

Bought a Breasley Flexcell 1000 memory foam mattress with a coolmax cover, tried the 700 but I thought I might as well go with more memory foam seeing as they offered to match a price I'd already seen online for the 1000 which was only £10 more than they were selling the 700. It's 10cm of memory foam and I haven't had any problems with heat at all.

You obviously like to be very warm in bed, as most people would find 10cm far too deep. The only reason many manufacturers give options with very deep memory foam is so that they can tell you 'the more memory foam the better', which is completely untrue. There is no extra benefit from having memory foam any deeper than 2", but if they can convince you there is then they can charge more.

The Coolmax cover is also a bit of a gimmick. It will feel cooler when you get into bed, but after a while it will warm up. The difference would be no more than the difference between flanlett sheets and cotton sheets.

MikeFishcake

This discussion just seems like it's turned into a lot of people that do like memory foam mattresses being told that they shouldn't like them, and people that don't like them are being told that they should like them... No one's going to think "ooh, after reading this thread, the mattress I've been enjoying for a year is suddenly very uncomfortable!" :-P

Like was said earlier on, you won't know whether you like it or not unless you try it. Words on an internet messageboard aren't going to give anyone a real life experience.

CloudRuler

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

You obviously like to be very warm in bed, as most people would find 10cm far too deep. The only reason many manufacturers give options with very deep memory foam is so that they can tell you 'the more memory foam the better', which is completely untrue. There is no extra benefit from having memory foam any deeper than 2", but if they can convince you there is then they can charge more.

The Coolmax cover is also a bit of a gimmick. It will feel cooler when you get into bed, but after a while it will warm up. The difference would be no more than the difference between flanlett sheets and cotton sheets.

I wouldn't say it's "very warm", just warm. In winter I still have a duck feather quilt on top, not a thick one though, the summer one. My mother has slept in it when I've been away and she hates being too warm, she's the type that only switches on the central heating when everyone else is freezing because she's almost always warm. She had no problems with it either.

I tried the 500 (5cm) and the 700 (7cm) in the store. I found the 700 far more comfortable than the 500 and I got the 1000 for only £10 more than they were selling the 700. I actually ordered the 700 first then found the 1000 online at another store for £10 more (without a cover), called up the place I'd ordered the 700 with to cancel and told them why. They then offered me the 1000 for the same price as I'd seen online but with a cover meaning I got it at roughly half the price they were selling it for. Some of the buyers guides I've read online have recommended 3" - 3.5" of memory foam for comfort, others 5cm if you're new to memory foam. Personally, I definitely wouldn't go as low as 2", the 500 didn't feel very comfortable to me at all. However I wouldn't advise anyone to buy a certain depth nor would I advise them to buy online without having tried the different depths, not everyone likes the same depth of memory foam.

As for the cover, I've not slept on the mattress without it so I have no idea if it makes a difference but it was free so I'm not too concerned about that. It's not as if the whole mattress gets warm either which was something I was concerned about. I wasn't sure prior to buying it whether it would react in the same way as non-memory foam mattresses i.e staying cool in the parts you're not laying on or whether it would all be at least somewhat warm but it's cool so I'm happy with it.
It's a pain to get the cover back on the mattress once it has been washed though.