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edited 14 June 2010 at 4:19PM in Water bills
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Loads and loads of posts about this(search for 'surface water drainage')
The Regulator has backed the Water Companies in their stance that they will only backdate this charge to the begining of the charging year. Although the charge is plain stupid, there are very sound reasons for not backdating.
One person has apparently managed to get it backdated(from Thames water) but that is the only case I have heard about.
After some help .
I received my water bill last week and nearly fell off my chair. My bill for 2008 is 399.48gbp. Now if i lived in a 5 bedroom house i would expect a bill for around this. But I live in a 2 bedroom maisonette apartment with no garden . There is only myself and my partner and we both work full time. Now i contacted yorkshire water last year as my bill was 360.00 last year and i was told my rate was due to the value of my house which was around 150,000gbp but then they said they use the council tax banding. Well my house falls under the bracket b which is 40,000gbp to about 55,000gbp. Now as I'm in a old building which was converted 10 years ago I have been advised I cant have a water meter.
I'm paying way to much I feel what can I do. It would be cheaper
to cut the water off and buy cheap bottled water !!!
Can anyone advise me what to do. Appreciate your thoughts.
Your property is assessed for water charges on its Rateable Value(RV)not Council Tax. RV was the system for assessing 'local taxes' prior to 1990(it was followed by the poll tax and then Council Tax)
Unfortunately the RV does not follow the Council Tax banding.
If they can't fit a meter you can insist on having an assessed charge which is the average charge for the number of people in the property, or in some cases the number of bedrooms.
Surely nationwide there will be many cases of larger more valuable houses using a lot more water than smaller houses but paying similar or less amounts.
This is not only a rip off for all water customers but also cannot help enviromentally. We continually hear from the water companies during the summer telling us how water needs to be saved. (Although we all know they waste more but thats another story!)
The water companies need to pull their fingers out and update their billing methods.
It should be simple. The more water you use the more you pay. I know meters can solve this but shouldn't all the Water Companies push meters more and also look at what they charge non-metered properties.
To use the old rateable values is just stupid and lazy. Changing it to the current council tax band system at least would help.
I personally rent a small flat and am not metered due to the landlords wish not to have the property metered. BUT I pay a similar amount to 3 bed properties nearby. With 2-4 people occupying. Surely they use more water than 1 person!!
Martin can you start the ball rolling with the press!!?
Current legislation allows the water company to enforce metering when there is a change of occupant(tenant or owner, so the landlord's wishes should be irrelevant.
The trouble is that some Companies enforce this regulation rigidly and others don't bother.
I agree totally that to base water charges on the RV is a complete nonsense; I know of mansions that have a lower RV than an estate semi.
However I believe that approx one third of unmetered occupants would be worse off if metered.(self evidently two thirds would gain!!)
Unfortunately many of those paying more would be large families in less desirable properties and tend to be less affluent.
It would not be a popular move to make this section of society pay more.
As a single person living in a 3 bedroom house, at work during week. Would a meter be a saving?
Does a meter only affect the "Water Supply" charge, will my "Sewerage" charge remain unchanged. If this is the case i see no point in going on a water meter.
Welcome to the forum.
Almost certainly a saving - unless you water the garden daily!
You will pay xx pence for every Cubic metre of water you use and yy pence sewerage on every cubic metre + small standing charges
However you can change to a meter and if it doesn't work out cheaper you have 12 months to change back to your old system.
So you have nothing to lose!!!
From the Consumer Council For water website - link here: