Wibo night storage heaters

Cardew

Early 01 April!

frankie

spamalot or what?

carlover

Yvonne465 wrote: »

Wibo is now a dying company trying to squeeze the British public of their hard earned cash. All of the Wibo staff have left and formed their own companies selling these german heaters under a different name . These former Wibo salespeople have realised how easy it is to con the British public. Never trust a a company who tells you they do not have a price list in their office or a sales staff needs to come out and survey. Some of the companies to watch out are Cornwall Heating solutions although reasonably priced and Ecowarmth which is also good value for money. The worst of them is Fischer storage heaters with prices close to Wibo prices. Remember these storage heaters are available in germany at a third of the price sold in the Uk.

Still no prices on their websites ,are they getting these from the mob in yorkshire?

Richie-from-the-Boro

Yvonne465 wrote: »

Wibo is now a dying company trying to squeeze the British public of their hard earned cash. All of the Wibo staff have left and formed their own companies selling these german heaters under a different name . These former Wibo salespeople have realised how easy it is to con the British public. Never trust a a company who tells you they do not have a price list in their office or a sales staff needs to come out and survey. Some of the companies to watch out are Cornwall Heating solutions although reasonably priced and Ecowarmth which is also good value for money. The worst of them is Fischer storage heaters with prices close to Wibo prices. Remember these storage heaters are available in germany at a third of the price sold in the Uk.

- agreed - but a correction
- WiBo do not sell storage heaters, they call them storage heaters
- but they have no storage capacity
- they do however, like Fischer et al .. come with a whole large supply of 'snake~oil'

Richie-from-the-Boro

wachdog wrote: »

Just heard owner of Fischer Storage Heaters use to work for Wibo and are a sister company Wibo.

True, I made a post about Fischer and WIBO-GmbH some time ago on this board, here they are pictured together with members of the German Parliament:

Richie-from-the-Boro

oooha wrote: »

I have worked for Wibo for over 15 years. It was not easy selling these heaters which cost anything between 1600 to 2400 for just one of their heaters. We had targets to achieve like any other business and the rewards were 18% commission per heater. The reason I left is the company got too greedy and kept raising the price of the heaters every 3 months this made it difficult to sell. I have now started my own company bring in the moolha. You quite right these heaters don't cost much to manufacture but the overheads are huge and we need to reward our sales team to make it worth their while. Good day I am out of here got an appointment to keep money to be made. Advise to anyone wanting to set up a company, its hard work but the rewards are sweet. Cost to you per heater between 250 to 400 GBP. You sell it for anything between 1000 to 1800 per heater.

Thanks for your input oooha.

Your refreshing honesty is welcome and in the particular as you will know the actual price discounted or otherwise is only ever whispered behind closed doors. The fact of the matter is the German population won't touch them with a bargepole, because they know they're overpriced stylised rubbish, but here in 'good old rip off Britain' the population will fall for 'snake~oil every time.

In their country of manufacture the market penetration is just over 1%, but because their figures show a 90%+ export the Bundestag love them.

Richard_Forest

I received a Wibo Leaflet in my letter box. I've been installing night storage heaters since I helped the installers cable our farmhouse for the first batch of rht8 heaters when I was 8 years old. I've bought hundred second hand refurbished and sold them over the years. Often I have just acquired them for taking them away. I've three properties of my own heated by reconditioned Dimplex, Unidaire and Creda Night storage heaters.
The Dimplex combination heaters which have a panel convector on the front which runs on standard rate electricity and a night storage unit are probably the best yet.
Silent in operation aside from the usual click of the thermostat on convector they perform wonderfully well on either £7 or E10 . Require two supplies, one on off peak, and the other on standard rate. One point to note is that if you’re in a property such as our farmhouse where the night stores are supplied from the black and grey phases with standard domestic circuits on the brown phase.
It’d be sensible to fit a separate of peak distribution board on the brown phase in order to avoid having 415 volts in a single heater. If you have two phases going into one heater you’d need to label it “Danger 415 volts”. They aren’t designed to have a 415 volt potential across the terminals.
If you have one of these combination heaters at about 500 pounds it’ll ensure you have a warm room and there's the additional spring and autumn benefit of being able to get instant heat for a couple of hours in an evening when it’s a bit chilly without having to carry a portable heater around the house. It saves space on the floor and really a night store of this kind is no uglier than a double radiator even if it s a couple of inches thicker for the same output its shorter end to end.
My own experience on running costs is that over the years there’s no difference in the overall installation+ maintenance+ running costs between any systems.
The simple equation is warm home= money spent
My house in Tattershall is off peak, this one is oil fired
Overall running costs are probably similar the oil is cheaper to run but a boilers 2000 quid plus and a service is about 120 a year I have just to drain the system and ft controls all the trv’s are worn out so 12 new rad stats are going in it needs a pressure hot flush (£500) so you really have to think that in 22 years I’ve replaced 2 thermostats in two separate night stores and the night stores in question Dimplex xt range were over five years old when I acquired them.
All cables are hidden under floors, no leakages, no annual service, no leaks, no noisy flues or water with air in it and as my house mate works shift she never comes home to a cold house. There is a newer kind of combination heater available from Dimplex/Creda and I’ve spoken to people who have them and they are very pleased with them. I understand E10 is available from Southern electric
Richard A Singleton-Cragg AMSERT

Richie-from-the-Boro

Wibo are not storage heaters, they are panel heaters, they run on expensive daytime electricity, you would know that being a qualified electrician & plumber. The remainder of the post I agree with other than promoting your name / company title twice. Other than a hexagonal nut what does AMSERT stand for ?

Cardew

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

The remainder of the post I agree with other than promoting your name / company title twice. Other than a hexagonal nut what does AMSERT stand for ?

Lets us guess!

Associate Member Society of Electrical Radiator Testers ???

Flopsey216

If anyone is still reading this thread...if I have understood correctly, is it a waste of money to take out 2 ancient night-storage heaters (20+ yrs old) and replace them with a modern version? I assumed something modern would be cheaper to run before I started reading this...now I'm not sure. Could the materials in old NS heaters lose their properties, whatever they are? Ours heat ok, but seem expensive to run. We top up with a wood-burner in the evenings.