HDMI cable? and upscaling dvd

mxxx

Oh dear, what have I started now! Marty J> Interesting point, i'd like to see that, wonder if theres a clip anywhere on-line.
Back to the point though, clearly mr aliEnRIK is not for real. It seems pretty obvious to me that he has just come on here to try and wind you all up and you seem to have fallen for it (but then I guess I could be wrong).
If anyone really does think they can see inferior picture quality using a cheap HDMI cable (blurring!? Lol honestly!) then please, use a close up picture from a digital camera in macro mode to show the difference and then post the pictures online. If the difference is clear enough to be able to pick up with the naked eye then you'll be able to capture it with a digital camera but as we all know its not possible im sure we wont see anything

weegie.geek

mxxx wrote: »

Oh dear, what have I started now! Marty J> Interesting point, i'd like to see that, wonder if theres a clip anywhere on-line.
Back to the point though, clearly mr aliEnRIK is not for real. It seems pretty obvious to me that he has just come on here to try and wind you all up and you seem to have fallen for it (but then I guess I could be wrong).
If anyone really does think they can see inferior picture quality using a cheap HDMI cable (blurring!? Lol honestly!) then please, use a close up picture from a digital camera in macro mode to show the difference and then post the pictures online. If the difference is clear enough to be able to pick up with the naked eye then you'll be able to capture it with a digital camera but as we all know its not possible im sure we wont see anything

I'd love that to be the case, but there are plenty of people like him.

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I was just thinking earlier on when I was playing my guitar, that for something as responsive as an analogue amplifier I don't bother ever spending more than £10 on leads for that

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

The Gadget Show did a test a few months ago where they got two identical TVs, two identical BluRay players and two identical BluRay disks (you get the idea).

One was connected with a £15 HDMI cable, the other with a £150 HDMI cable.

Not surprisingly, no one could tell the difference between the two. Both pictures were identical.

And not suprising to me either as they obviously didnt use decent mains equipment which is what i've been trying to say since the beginning of the thread :T

aliEnRIK

mxxx wrote: »

Oh dear, what have I started now! Marty J> Interesting point, i'd like to see that, wonder if theres a clip anywhere on-line.
Back to the point though, clearly mr aliEnRIK is not for real. It seems pretty obvious to me that he has just come on here to try and wind you all up and you seem to have fallen for it (but then I guess I could be wrong).
If anyone really does think they can see inferior picture quality using a cheap HDMI cable (blurring!? Lol honestly!) then please, use a close up picture from a digital camera in macro mode to show the difference and then post the pictures online. If the difference is clear enough to be able to pick up with the naked eye then you'll be able to capture it with a digital camera but as we all know its not possible im sure we wont see anything

Absolutely nowhere did I say BLURRING. I said bleeding and I ment in minute quantities. There isnt a single cable on the planet that allows ALL detail through even though they ARE digital. they let through whats classed as the correct specs for a hdmi but the better quality ones let more information through (which again you will NOT see until the tv is set up correctly in the first place)
Im not taking the !!!!, I have done all my own homework.
I will repeat myself again as no one seems to be able to get their heads around this ~
Until the tv is fed by a decent mains supply then its highly unlikely ANYONE is going to see a difference by just switching the hdmi cable as the tv is struggling to play a decent picture as it is.
Its simple ~ you start at the beginning and work your way through. The VERY first thing to 'upgrade' is mains. So thats a conditioner (40 quid from Maplins) and a silver plated and braided mains lead (35 ish from ebay), Goto settings and switch off ALL of the extra c*ap the manufactureres have put into the mix as this only makes things worse. (philips pixel plus for instance is awful ~ switch it off)
Get a hold of a THX test disc (Star Wars, terminator 2 or whatever) and use it to correctly set the contrast, brightness and sharpness (shouldnt actually be able to change sharpness when using a hdmi lead though). Then put on various discs and set the colour up so that skin tones look natural and not an overblown RED (as lots of people seem to do)
After a month, redo the whole procedure as it more than likely will have changed slightly (especially the COLOUR)
Then lastly after 6 months or so (Or if the colour keeps on getting more INTENSE as they invariably tend to do ~ a CLEAR sign of 'burn in')
Job done

aliEnRIK

weegie.geek wrote: »

I'd love that to be the case, but there are plenty of people like him.

please explain to me, and make it ENTIRELY clear.......what you mean by the 'HIM' comment?

aliEnRIK

weegie.geek wrote: »

Excellent, he pretends to be an engineer, gets found out, then starts calling people names.

What we really need is something that can compare the raw bitstream at both ends of a cable, to prove that both streams are bit-identical.

Until then, only people who can apply logic and reasoning can understand the situation.

I'm sure mr cryogenically-frozen-plug will still claim to be able to see/hear the difference, mind you.

My job title states ENGINEER
Why would I lie _ What the hell have I got to gain??
Some of the people on this forum absolutely defy belief. If someone doesnt believe in hifi cables then so be it, everyones entitled to an opinion. But until they 'try them for themselves' I really do NOT see how they can refute what I say..
(and TRYING FOR THEMSELVES means to set through a MAINS CONDITIONER at the very least)

mxxx

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Absolutely nowhere did I say BLURRING. I said bleeding and I ment in minute quantities. There isnt a single cable on the planet that allows ALL detail through even though they ARE digital.

Ok ok, calm down. Sorry, I meant bleeding but even so, we are only talking about cables so lets all take a deep breath and calm down.
Going back to your comments, I totally appreciate the need for setting up a TV properly, thats going to make a noticeable difference to picture quality but im a little puzzled about your comments regarding power supply. I havnt done any reasearch into this so i'm not going to argue the fact as I will openly admit that I dont know but.... I fail to see how having a cleaner or better conditioned power supply can make any difference to the image on a digital flat panel television. I am an IT technician (before anyone starts arguing my credentials, I have over 5 years experience in the field and currently work for the probation service in Devon & Cornwall, im 24 and I hold a double A-level in IT (plus an A level in physics) an ITIL qualification and one MCP so far (working on more)) and fully understand how flat panel LCD monitors and TV's work so struggle to see how a different power source can make any difference to the end picture as its digital.
That said, even if it does make a difference, the choice of HDMI cable used to connect to the screen will not make a difference, bleeding simply is not possible (unless someone is somehow intercepting the signal as its coming down the cable, changing the properties of it and then re-injecting it into the cable) it really is not. If you are getting bleeding its not down to the cable and if you really think it is I suggest you go away and do some research into how HDMI works and how the signal is sent down the cable.

Back to my previous point, if you really can see a difference please post some pics up for us to all see and prove us wrong

aliEnRIK

mxxx wrote: »

Ok ok, calm down. Sorry, I meant bleeding but even so, we are only talking about cables so lets all take a deep breath and calm down.
Going back to your comments, I totally appreciate the need for setting up a TV properly, thats going to make a noticeable difference to picture quality but im a little puzzled about your comments regarding power supply. I havnt done any reasearch into this so i'm not going to argue the fact as I will openly admit that I dont know but.... I fail to see how having a cleaner or better conditioned power supply can make any difference to the image on a digital flat panel television. I am an IT technician (before anyone starts arguing my credentials, I have over 5 years experience in the field and currently work for the probation service in Devon & Cornwall, im 24 and I hold a double A-level in IT (plus an A level in physics) an ITIL qualification and one MCP so far (working on more)) and fully understand how flat panel LCD monitors and TV's work so struggle to see how a different power source can make any difference to the end picture as its digital.
That said, even if it does make a difference, the choice of HDMI cable used to connect to the screen will not make a difference, bleeding simply is not possible (unless someone is somehow intercepting the signal as its coming down the cable, changing the properties of it and then re-injecting it into the cable) it really is not. If you are getting bleeding its not down to the cable and if you really think it is I suggest you go away and do some research into how HDMI works and how the signal is sent down the cable.

Back to my previous point, if you really can see a difference please post some pics up for us to all see and prove us wrong

Fair comments but im not going to start changing cables and putting photos up for all to see as I have no need to prove myself. As i've said before if someone doesnt like what I say then so be it. Im not going to muck about (and its not easy with my set up) changing the cables just to prove a point on here (and im not convinced my camera would be upto the job anyways) and to get the EXACT same pictures up for all to see....well......im not sure how I could achieve that. I have a PS3 connected but that to be fair doesnt really look much different in games etc, its more down to dvd playback that the hdmi differences becomes apparant
I really have nothing to prove, it just gets my back up that people slag me off when they really dont 'know'one way or the other.
By all means mate ~ has this not intrigued you enough to give it a shot?

aliEnRIK

Actually, for my own interest I have tried to take pics but with the flash on it just shows a big white reflection flash and without flash it has some sort of weird double reflection effect
Maybe some of the pro photographers would know how to get round this but I have no clue....
If the PS3 can be made to take snapshots it would be pretty cool (and VERY useful in this case)