HDMI cable? and upscaling dvd

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

What do you imagine happens to the 0s and 1s in an inferior quality digital cable?

Do you think the type of FireWire lead I use to listen to music from an external HD makes any difference to the sound quality of it?

Actually a firewire is a different beast. My dad has a pioneer dvd player and a pioneer av amp. We tested a 250 quid chord digital phono against a basic firewire. Actually I'll change that, HE tested it I never heard. he said that the chord was slightly better(to his ears) overall but stayed with the firewire as the bass was incredible and he couldnt justify the extra cash. The guy in the shop said ALL firwires are the same so we decided to challenge that theory and went looking for any reputable ones. We could only find one by QED. The differnce was there for ALL to hear. Everything sounded better. So the result was simple, firewires ARE different by different manufacturers

Also, I assume YOUR firewire has a FERRITE attached to it? You will also notice that nearly every monitor cable ALSO has a ferrite (or 2) attached to them. This is due to the fact that they DO lose information even though they are DIGITAL (Im talking about DVI cables here) and the ferrite tries to resolve the interference a little (as they are cheap)

superscaper

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Actually a firewire is a different beast. My dad has a pioneer dvd player and a pioneer av amp. We tested a 250 quid chord digital phono against a basic firewire. Actually I'll change that, HE tested it I never heard. he said that the chord was slightly better(to his ears) overall but stayed with the firewire as the bass was incredible and he couldnt justify the extra cash. The guy in the shop said ALL firwires are the same so we decided to challenge that theory and went looking for any reputable ones. We could only find one by QED. The differnce was there for ALL to hear. Everything sounded better. So the result was simple, firewires ARE different by different manufacturers

Also, I assume YOUR firewire has a FERRITE attached to it? You will also notice that nearly every monitor cable ALSO has a ferrite (or 2) attached to them. This is due to the fact that they DO lose information even though they are DIGITAL (Im talking about DVI cables here) and the ferrite tries to resolve the interference a little (as they are cheap)

Still not an actual test in sight then. I.e. even a blind test never mind double blind.

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

I really wish somebody would.



I'm not calling you a liar. I don't think you're setting out to deceive anyone, but you are deceiving yourself.

Unless you have conducted tests as I outlined above, you haven't tested any cables at all. Otherwise the one you think should sound better always will sound better. Human senses are easily fooled.



Sharing your opinion is fair enough, but if you do so on an open forum, you have to be prepared for others to disagree with you.

Go do the Randi challenge in the other thread and then get back to me. I'll even let you fly me over with your winnings and rub my face in it.

Now see, THATS the kind of comment I dont mind. Everyones entitled to an opinion, I just dont like people calling me a liar.
As ive said before, I dont NEED to prove to anyone but my results speak for themselves (to me). Im an engineer and to be honest I really couldnt believe that cables could make all the difference myself at one stage. So out of interest I first bought a decent scart. It LOOKED better straight away. I was then intrigued and decided to take the plunge for one of these so called MAINS CONDITIONERS. When I plugged my tv into it I was gobsmacked. It was SOOO much better (instantly). I was then hooked.
Incedentally my hifi didnt sound any different at that stage and I was gutted about that. So later on (when funds allowed) I tried an ISOTECH ELITE mains cable on my amp. Now you say that people THINk they can tella difference but maybe theyre not sure? Well I can tell you now that this mains cable had an INSTANT effect. The drums on my cd were.....well....I was in awe.
Since then Ive found that custom silver plated braided mains cables are far superior but at least it got me started

aliEnRIK

superscaper wrote: »

Still not an actual test in sight then. I.e. even a blind test never mind double blind.

Anytime you want mate you come on over. we shall BLIND test you

superscaper

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Im an engineer and to be honest I really couldnt believe that cables could make all the difference myself at one stage.

What kind of engineer, it's a rather generic term?

superscaper

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Anytime you want mate you come on over. we shall BLIND test you

Do you know what a blind test is?

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Actually a firewire is a different beast. My dad has a pioneer dvd player and a pioneer av amp. We tested a 250 quid chord digital phono against a basic firewire. Actually I'll change that, HE tested it I never heard. he said that the chord was slightly better(to his ears) overall but stayed with the firewire as the bass was incredible and he couldnt justify the extra cash. The guy in the shop said ALL firwires are the same so we decided to challenge that theory and went looking for any reputable ones. We could only find one by QED. The differnce was there for ALL to hear. Everything sounded better. So the result was simple, firewires ARE different by different manufacturers

This is easily tested (and refuted). I have done it myself. Sorry, but they're bit-for-bit identical, regardless of the manufacturer.

Also, I assume YOUR firewire has a FERRITE attached to it? You will also notice that nearly every monitor cable ALSO has a ferrite (or 2) attached to them. This is due to the fact that they DO lose information even though they are DIGITAL (Im talking about DVI cables here) and the ferrite tries to resolve the interference a little (as they are cheap)

A ferrite choke has absolutely nothing to do with losing information (at least, not in the way you seem to be implying). It is there to stop EMI or RFI damaging the signal. If it did interfere with a digital signal, it simply wouldn't work. It wouldn't "lose some air around the midrange" or "go woody in the low bass" or anything like that.

Digital signals can be disrupted just like analogue signals, but digital signals stop working when they are.

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Incedentally my hifi didnt sound any different at that stage and I was gutted about that. So later on (when funds allowed) I tried an ISOTECH ELITE mains cable on my amp. Now you say that people THINk they can tella difference but maybe theyre not sure? Well I can tell you now that this mains cable had an INSTANT effect. The drums on my cd were.....well....I was in awe.
Since then Ive found that custom silver plated braided mains cables are far superior but at least it got me started

Have you tried treating your listening space?

If done properly, it will make far more of a difference than any cable ever could.

aliEnRIK

superscaper wrote: »

What kind of engineer, it's a rather generic term?

Entirely true, theres ALL sorts of 'engineers'. Im not actually allowed to say but I work in a military complex that builds military aircraft

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

Have you tried treating your listening space?

If done properly, it will make far more of a difference than any cable ever could.

yes I have (at my old place), and no it didnt