HDMI cable? and upscaling dvd

aliEnRIK

weegie.geek wrote: »

Hahaha, he claims that a digital signal can bleed on a cheaper cable? That's fantastic!

A crappy cable can have limited bandwidth, especially for 1080p content, which will lead to signal breakup in extreme cases, but it's the equivalent of a poor signal on sky digital or freeview - the picture will stutter and freeze. There's no bleed, no ghosting, nothing like that. It's just not possible with a digital signal.

I'd make stuff up as well though, if I'd spent 50 quid on an hdmi cable, never mind the one he doesn't like to say the price of...

From what I hear it seems none of YOU lot know what your talking about
Im not even going to bother because people like you just bury your heads in the sand without having a clue what your talking about

Youll ALWAYS have an inferior tv set up is all....no biggie

[Deleted User]

I think most people would benefit more from paying some one £50 to come in and correctly calibrate their set than they would expensive cables.

Stephen_Webber

HDMI is digital, it'll either work or it won't. Just buy the cheapest well-made one you can find. Unless you are planning on a 10m run, don't spend over a tenner on it.

aliEnRIK

weegie.geek wrote: »

Hahaha, he claims that a digital signal can bleed on a cheaper cable? That's fantastic!

A crappy cable can have limited bandwidth, especially for 1080p content, which will lead to signal breakup in extreme cases, but it's the equivalent of a poor signal on sky digital or freeview - the picture will stutter and freeze. There's no bleed, no ghosting, nothing like that. It's just not possible with a digital signal.

I'd make stuff up as well though, if I'd spent 50 quid on an hdmi cable, never mind the one he doesn't like to say the price of...

If you wish to come here I'll quite happily SHOW you the differences which are clear to anyone with GOOD eyesite

And as for varying reviews ~
http://whathifi.com/Search/Review/hdmi/
Notice the various cable pricings and the stars they rate. Click on ones your intrigued about and notice how they vary. Somehave a LOSS OF DETAIL compared to others etc. Thats EXACTLY right, the qed simply doesnt allow as much detail through as the wireworld and the wireworld looks SO much more 3 dimensional. So if anyone wants to call me b*ll s*it on this then your welcome round ANY time. Bring a cheap kettle lead with you and whatever hdmi cable tou use. We shall plug them in first and runa few test discs. Then I'll plug my mains cable in to prove that kettle leads are rubbish. Then I'll put my hdmi back in run the same tests and watch your jaw drop
I cant see any other way of PROVING what I say as most people will slag off anything thats pulled up off the net as theyre so 'SET IN THEIR WAYS'

Some people slag off WHAT HIFI magazine. But the sheer fact is its been around a lot longer than most magazines and for a reason, they give as accurate a review as they possibly can and if a products c*ap then theyll tell you as such. Its what got me into hifi and for that I salute them. The picture quality on my pioneer hdtv blows away every other one I've personally seen as no one I've encountered has a clue about how to get them looking at their best. Now there ARE people out there im sure that WILL have theirs set up and will give mine a run for my money but thats because they know what the score is and have used whatever means necessary to get their particlar set up looking and sounding as good as they can get it.

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

From what I hear it seems none of YOU lot know what your talking about
Im not even going to bother because people like you just bury your heads in the sand without having a clue what your talking about

There's an excellent book by Bob Katz called Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science.

I suggest you read it.

aliEnRIK wrote:

And as for varying reviews ~
http://whathifi.com/Search/Review/hdmi/
Notice the various cable pricings and the stars they rate. Click on ones your intrigued about and notice how they vary. Somehave a LOSS OF DETAIL compared to others etc. Thats EXACTLY right, the qed simply doesnt allow as much detail through as the wireworld and the wireworld looks SO much more 3 dimensional.

What do you imagine happens to the 0s and 1s in an inferior quality digital cable?

Do you think the type of FireWire lead I use to listen to music from an external HD makes any difference to the sound quality of it?

(Hint: it doesn't)

So if anyone wants to call me b*ll s*it on this then your welcome round ANY time. Bring a cheap kettle lead with you and whatever hdmi cable tou use. We shall plug them in first and runa few test discs. Then I'll plug my mains cable in to prove that kettle leads are rubbish. Then I'll put my hdmi back in run the same tests and watch your jaw drop
I cant see any other way of PROVING what I say as most people will slag off anything thats pulled up off the net as theyre so 'SET IN THEIR WAYS'

Well you see, therein lies the problem: you clearly have no idea how to objectively test something.

You need someone who doesn't know which cable is which. So one is labelled cable A, and one cable B. Then you sit in front of the TV, and this person plugs in cable A. You then watch something. Then they plug in cable B and you watch something again. Then they plug in either one and you have to identify whether it's cable A or B. This is repeated over and over again.

If there's as big a difference as you claim, you should have no trouble getting them all right. I really wish I lived near you so I could bet you substantial amounts of money that you couldn't. A fool and his money and all that.

Now there ARE people out there im sure that WILL have theirs set up and will give mine a run for my money but thats because they know what the score is and have used whatever means necessary to get their particlar set up looking and sounding as good as they can get it.

Or else they have a sound grasp of scientific principles.

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

There's an excellent book by Bob Katz called Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science.

I suggest you read it.



What do you imagine happens to the 0s and 1s in an inferior quality digital cable?

Do you think the type of FireWire lead I use to listen to music from an external HD makes any difference to the sound quality of it?

(Hint: it doesn't)



Well you see, therein lies the problem: you clearly have no idea how to objectively test something.

You need someone who doesn't know which cable is which. So one is labelled cable A, and one cable B. Then you sit in front of the TV, and this person plugs in cable A. You then watch something. Then they plug in cable B and you watch something again. Then they plug in either one and you have to identify whether it's cable A or B. This is repeated over and over again.

If there's as big a difference as you claim, you should have no trouble getting them all right. I really wish I lived near you so I could bet you substantial amounts of money that you couldn't. A fool and his money and all that.



Or else they have a sound grasp of scientific principles.

So is ANYONE willing to come on over?
Im not going to sit here and pull up net pages or quote books or anything. as people will just refute them and laugh (as they have no idea themselves). Im quite happily willing for people to come here and we can have ANY test they so desire (thats fair).
At the end of the day I know this ~ I myself have tested all sorts of cables and KNOW what diference they make. You calling me a liar just gets my back up but as theres nothing else I can do to prove then thats that. Any time you travel up this way you just send me a PM to get the ball rolling.

Now please, if no ones willing to come then please no more comments. I posted on this forum in good faith to try to help a fellow poster. All I got back was grief by people who dont know what they are talking about because they just ASSUME. If anyone IS willing to take me up then im all ears.......

[Deleted User]

Surely eyes would be more apt?

aliEnRIK

Marty_J wrote: »

There's an excellent book by Bob Katz called Mastering Audio: The Art and the Science.

I suggest you read it.

Im 'acquiring' it as we speak. Should be interesting once I have it.......

aliEnRIK

be_alright wrote: »

Surely eyes would be more apt?

eyes, ears, whatever.......I really dont mind

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

So is ANYONE willing to come on over?

I really wish somebody would.

At the end of the day I know this ~ I myself have tested all sorts of cables and KNOW what diference they make. You calling me a liar just gets my back up but as theres nothing else I can do to prove then thats that. Any time you travel up this way you just send me a PM to get the ball rolling.

I'm not calling you a liar. I don't think you're setting out to deceive anyone, but you are deceiving yourself.

Unless you have conducted tests as I outlined above, you haven't tested any cables at all. Otherwise the one you think should sound better always will sound better. Human senses are easily fooled.

Now please, if no ones willing to come then please no more comments. I posted on this forum in good faith to try to help a fellow poster. All I got back was grief by people who dont know what they are talking about because they just ASSUME. If anyone IS willing to take me up then im all ears.......

Sharing your opinion is fair enough, but if you do so on an open forum, you have to be prepared for others to disagree with you.

Go do the Randi challenge in the other thread and then get back to me. I'll even let you fly me over with your winnings and rub my face in it.