Dooyoo - Get paid to write reviews (Merged thread)

Emmysmum_2

If the item is sold on Amazon, use that link, they get added faster. Stuff not on Amazon tends to take longer on both Ciao and DooYoo I found.

Camp_Freddy

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getting-sorted-sarah wrote: »

The only issue here of any relevance is that of a Clicking Cartel - most of us maintain that this isn't one, and those who might have been accused of such a thing have been very quiet recently on this forum. The majority of the people on this forum are abiding by both the rules of the site and also the spirit of the community. I'm about to go and use Dooyoo to research my new freezer.

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[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]No, it goes further than that. I think it goes right to the very core of behaviour on the site. I've seen posts on this thread where people have rated reviews highly “just to p!ss off that cheese guy”. So, I don't believe it's unfair to question people's rating habits based on some posts I've seen here. Dooyoo members have been named on this thread without a right of reply because some people don't seem to understand review writing or peer review (although I'm not saying the named person is not guilty of these accusations) and, yes, there appears to be evidence of cartel behaviour when people have said they've gone through their circle of trust and will do so the following day based on adding members from a site dedicated to making/saving money. These things might all be true or they might not, but you must at least agree that it looks suspicious?[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Anyway, those forums in full:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]http://www.opinionators.co.uk/mainboard/index.php[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]http://reviewwritersforum.editboard.com/forum.htm[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]http://z3.invisionfree.com/idodooyoo/index.php?[/FONT]

Sweetpea32

The whole business with the toaster review and "the cheese guy" was a bit of fun, and the words "just to p!ss of that cheese guy" were never wrote, and if you read was written was that " I found the review very useful so I rated it as very useful", the cheese guy bit was a bit of fun that was added at the end. I would have rated it very useful regardless, as it had some great points in it based on user experience and I found the review pleasant to read. I don't need all the technical spec that wasn't included. If I like the sound of the toaster, I will follow it up by checking out a website or a store.

You said in one of your earlier posts that Dooyoo members should be rating more reviews, than they are receiving. How is this supposed to be achieved if it is getting frowned upon by people rating their circle of friends? I rate those reviews first (only the ones I am interested in, may I add!!), because they are people that I trust (some are members from this site and some are people that I have found on Dooyoo and liked their reviews)and I spend a long time throughly reading reviews as you will see in some of the detailed comments I leave.It is certainly never a case of just clicking on a rating. I rate what the reviews are worth, and they are sometimes "VU", sometimes U and sometimes SU. I certainly do not rate everything VU even if they are in my circle of friends.

I may have put in my post that I go through my circle of friends every day, but this is not true. Yes, I do rate some of the ones that have posted new and interesting reviews, but not all of them. I simply wouldn't have the time. I work all day and I do have a life in the evenings which doesn't revolve around the PC. I also rate loads of other reviews from people that are not in my circle.

I am getting to the point now where I am reluctant to rate any reviews from anyone in my circle in case we are getting accused of doing something wrong, but then in which case what is the point in having a circle of trust because surely these are people who's reviews you like reading and respect.

I also have not added all the people on this thread purely because they have put their name on it. I have looked at their profiles first and there are many people that I have decided not to add.

I love Dooyoo and am certainly not out to con them out of any money. I do a couple of reviews a day, some days I don't do any and I don't even log on. I feel as if we are being punished for taking an interest in each others reviews. We have a community feel on the forum too and I feel as if that is being taken away from us, as what you seem to be saying is that we shouldn't be rating people that are in our circle of friends.

I understand Camp Freddy that you have your point of view, and if it makes you understand that I am not out to con the site then I will quite happily delete my circle of friends. If I was trying to make loads of money from Dooyoo then I would be churning out rubbish reviews in all my spare time to earn 500 points, not relying on others to rate mine for 15 points a time.

Sorry for the rant, but I am very passionate about writing and love reviewing products and I really enjoy the Dooyoo site. Like I said, I will happily clear any members from this site from my circle of friends if that's what it takes.

MoreThanGold

Just a word for all of us MSE-ers who are using Dooyoo properly, but who might now be feeling like money grabbing crims due to some negative feeling out there!

There should be no harm in reading and rating the reviews of your 'friends'. If so then why on earth do Dooyoo have a facility called 'Circle of Friends' in the first place if you are going to be excommunicated for using it??
The website is dooyoo.co.uk not dooyoo.co.china, so I'd imagine we have the liberty to read and rate whoever and whatever we wish.
Yes, we should never get mixed up in clicking cartels, but who is to judge what we really do or do not find useful?
The reviews are meant to be about products, so if it tells me that one bit of information I was looking for regards buying it then who is to say that it wasn't very useful to me even if it was short or mispelt?
If we are to rate according to length and literacy of the review then surely it has then become an essay writing competition and not the product purchasing advice it purports to be.

So you don't feel like we're 'fleecing' Dooyoo you should remember:

- Dooyoo wants you there. This month aren't they basically paying existing members to recruit new members for them. And MSE has more or less sent them a ton of new members for free!
- the more of us running about Dooyoo, the greater their site traffic, and the greater the traffic the greater their advertising revenue.
- if your stats are similiar to mine then 60% of the people who read your reviews are non-members. That's reads you do not get paid for. But Dooyoo are.
- Dooyoo wants you to look at as many reviews as possible. The more reviews looked at the more of those annoying Terminal Five or Terminator adverts get watched and thus more pennies to Dooyoo.
They are not a charity - they make money using our work as their site content.

I'm only getting into Dooyoo, and its fun, but I think some of us are getting a bit down with these rumoured accusations.
So all I can say to those of us on MSE who are on Dooyoo with proper intent is just to enjoy it and forget about all this negative talk.
Those who are messing about on it will soon get bored and either drop out or be booted out, leaving the rest of us to write, read, rate and enjoy for a long time to come.

So there

jmarko

can i ask a churning question?
i work during the day so probably can write two or three useful reviews a day on a good day.
jmarko's wifey is at home all day at the mo and so can devote more time to it. she is only reviewing things she has experience of. she is probably averaging 15-20 a day at the mo.
is that such a bad thing?
it's a genuine question!

geordie_joe

redsandy101 wrote: »

A review often takes over 30 minutes to write, including checking prices, colours, ingredients etc.

This was a point I tried to make, people don't want that sort of stuff in the review. Or rather I tried to point out that the person who said that had a valid point.

People who are looking to but a product don't want to read a review that just contains the information they can find on the makers site, or any site that is selling the product.

If they want to know the dimensions of the product, the colour, the Watts it uses, it's weight etc. they will go to the Argos site and get all that.

What they want to know from a review is what will happen when they plug it in and switch it on.

They don't want to see a list of ingredients, they can get that from any site, they want to know if a real live person thinks it tastes nice.

jmarko

ooh! and one more question while i think of it! both me and jmarko's wifey have an account cos we're different people (although we use the same laptop). that's ok isn't it?

[Deleted User]

The last few pages has been interesting reading - though I'm sad about the accusation of cartels. I was one on this forum who created a list of all those who were newly registered with dooyoo. Hand on heart I can truthfully state that this was not to create a cartel and I'm shocked at the accusation, though admit to naivity in not thinking of that at the time.

I listed the names of reviewers on dooyoo that were part of MSE as well because I thought it might be fun - particularly as I have no experience of this sort of writing (MSE is the first and only forum to which I am a member) and I wanted to see how others were doing and share experiences... and trust the reviews I receive without being too sensitive. I guess I just liked the idea of having a group of people I could trust.

I'm sorry to have caused this concern through ignorance, that was not my intent. I have read reviews from people from MSE, but if I think they're not good then I don't rate them at all (if you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all). I read new reviews and those written by people who have rated me, but with commitments to family, work, studying and volunteering my time with dooyoo is limited.

It's been an education to read reviews on items that I haven't considered in the past (movies, books and computer games) because they are written by someone who has reviewed something by me. This has really opened up my eyes to modern technology. I'm a child of the 60's so information about facebook, printers, computer games etc. has been good as I'm quite nervous about things I know little about.

I think it might be wise to remove this thread because of the listing of names and to create a new thread in which it is made very clear that this is not a clicking cartel.

If I had joined dooyoo for the money/vouchers, then I'd be stacking the shelves in Tesco one night a week and earning 10x what I "earn" with dooyoo - I guess that's why I didn't even think about the concerns that have been raised.

It is important to me that I remember a genuine member of dooyoo. Writing reviews is improving my writing style and having a really positive effect on my confidence. I know it'll be unlikely that I have the fluid writing style of many people on dooyoo, but I hope that I can learn from them and that my reviews can be part of this shared experience. It's also about my self-respect - I would be truly horrified to be accused of fraud or deceit.

It's very late and I should be asleep, but I wanted to respond.

Hiphouse

cheap_charlie

I too am upset at accusations of "cartels".

Its nice to have a Circle of Friends and I thought the point of having one was to be able to review one another's reviews and find them easily. Maybe I am wrong!

I have already stated in this thread that I only review items I have knowledge of or have an interest in. I feel that way I am not just basing my review on a certain person's writing skills...I mean some people are great writers but not exactly the most exciting reviewer, and vice versa.

I also do not reciprocate all reviews I receive - I tend to click on "newest reviews" when I do my ratings and will read whatever interests me from that, rather than clicking on my Circle of Friends for reviews to read.

I spend a long time reading and rating reviews too - I actually enjoy doing it and I will mark a review down if its not helpful. Nor do I take offence if someone marks me down - these things are to be expected in communities.

Lastly I think it has to be pointed out that a lot of people when they join Dooyoo are "enthusiastic" newbies, wanting to rack up miles.

With encouragement from the guides, this tends to wear off as quality is encouraged over quanitity.

Sadly I think this thread should go now too - because it seems some people already have the wrong idea about the spirit in which we have joined Dooyoo :-(

geordie_joe

jmarko wrote: »

can i ask a churning question?
i work during the day so probably can write two or three useful reviews a day on a good day.
jmarko's wifey is at home all day at the mo and so can devote more time to it. she is only reviewing things she has experience of. she is probably averaging 15-20 a day at the mo.
is that such a bad thing?
it's a genuine question!

NO, this is not a bad thing. But I will say that my idea of a useful review is one that tells the reader something only someone with experience of the product will know.
That's why they are reading the review, to find out the things the maker doesn't mention.

They don't want to know the price, they can hunt the web for the best price. They don't want to know what colour it is, there's a picture of it on the argos site.

If you want to write useful review then that is great, go for it,. But remember, before you start the review to think "If I were thinking of buying this, apart from the info that is on the makers/sellers site, what else would I want to know. And if someone comments and says "But you didn't tell me this...." Don't take it as a criticism of your review, just think "that's what my readers want to know, I'll make sure that is in my future reviews".