Help get rid of those middle lane morons on the motorway (petition)

Wig

mrbadexample wrote: »

Why not?

265The right-hand lane of a motorway with three or more lanes MUST NOT be used (except in prescribed circumstances) if you are driving

• any vehicle drawing a trailer
• a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter

I have no idea what is meant by prescribed circumstances, perhaps you can enlighten me?
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tomstickland

The convential understanding of "middle lane moron" is a vehicle sat in the middle lane that is not overtaking anything when there is a clear LH lane. There are some who do just sit in the outside lane with no intention of going any faster than any other lane, and they are guilty as charged. However, there are also those who sit in the outside lane waiting for things to move out of the way, knowing that if they pull over than the vehicle behind will take their place in the queue. I think it's just a point at which the strict definition of something and dealing with a situation practically part ways.

mrbadexample

Wig wrote: »

265The right-hand lane of a motorway with three or more lanes MUST NOT be used (except in prescribed circumstances) if you are driving

• any vehicle drawing a trailer
• a goods vehicle with a maximum laden weight exceeding 3.5 tonnes but not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, which is required to be fitted with a speed limiter

I have no idea what is meant by prescribed circumstances, perhaps you can enlighten me?
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Prescribed circumstances would be, for example, if you were directed into the third lane by a policeman, or if there was a wide load straddling lanes 1 & 2, and you needed to overtake.

I was being slightly presumptuous - you said: "I was in a 7.5T truck once", which seemed to suggest that it was not a recent experience. The requirement to fit a speed limiter in vehicles of 3501kg - 7500kg is a relatively recent one, only being enforced within the last year or so. If your truck did not require a speed limiter to be fitted, you were quite within your rights to use the outside lane.

laalaa

iolanthe07 wrote: »

Whats wrong with using the middle lane if you doing 70?

Because you're in the way



Sorry if I am being dumb here, but in the way of who? If we are all meant to use the left hand lane, there should be nobody in the middle lane apart from people overtaking, no?

And if the drivers in the middle lane are doing 70 they shouldnt be in your way, as noone should be doing more than 70, eh?

It really hacks me off people that think that as long as you are in the right hand lane the speed limit does not apply. Primarily vauxhall vectra drivers.

Someone please explain all this to me.

Markyt

laalaa wrote: »

iolanthe07 wrote: »

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And if the drivers in the middle lane are doing 70 they shouldnt be in your way, as noone should be doing more than 70, eh?

i'll let you know if I ever see one. I find them generally doing 55, maybe 60, oblivious to what is going on around them.

It's not the middle lane hogging so much as the people who do it are usually the halfwit types with their foreheads pressed against the windscreen and foglights still on from 1983, when they accidentally hit the button.

cyclonebri1

Altarf wrote: »

People here are moaning about the middle lane hogger, but frankly 90% of drivers are members of that club, although they pretend that they aren't.

A large part of my lengthy commute is on dual carriageways (both motorway and A road). Normally the left hand lane has only HGV traffic, often fairly well spaced out, and frequently with the next truck on the horizon. Unless there is only a short distance between the trucks I will pull in once I pass.

Does any body else pull in? Of course they don't, they stay fixed in the outside lane, so you have a steady stream of nose to tail of traffic in the outside lane, doing pretty much the same speed as I am. There is no 'slow coach' at the front holding the traffic up in the outside lane, just the road running at maximum capacity.

As mentioned earlier, you should keep left unless overtaking. So why aren't all the people sitting in the outside lane. Because they are all middle (or outside lane) hoggers. If you cannot go past the car in front of you (for whatever reason), then you should keep left. If you don't, you are a middle (or outside lane) hogger, like it or not.

And when I reach the next HGV in the distance, do these middle (or outside lane) hoggers want to let me pull out to overtake it? Of course they don't. The middle (or outside lane) hoggers should realise that every time they make it difficult someone who has pulled in to overtake, they are just recruiting another member to the club, as that person won't pull in next time.

So next time you accuse someone of being a middle (or outside lane) hogger, take a look in the mirror and make sure that you are not a member of the club as well.

Which is exactly what I said, quite right!;)

roddydogs

arnt some posts getting mixed up? were talking 3 lane motorways, not 2, if its a 2 lane, there is no "Middle Lane"

chuckles1066

movilogo wrote: »

Left lane is for lorries.
Right lane is for BMWs/white vans etc. traveling over 90 mph.

Drive on left lane, every 2 minutes you need to move out to overtake artics.
Drive on right lane. Every 30 seconds you'll be flashed by BMW drivers.

So, where do I drive? Middle lane. Hardly rocket science.

So you're one of them are you?

Pulling out every two minutes to overtake wagons causes you a problem, does it?

Problem with the steering wheel, is it? You want to get that fixed, it could get messy one day.

Altarf

chuckles1066 wrote: »

Pulling out every two minutes to overtake wagons causes you a problem, does it?

It shouldn't be, but there seem to be a lot of motorists who prefer to drive nose to tail in a stream in the middle / outside lane, and seem to take great umbridge at anyone pulling out in front of them and make it their life's work to make it as difficult as possible.

As there are so many members of this "won't let anyone in" club, who can blame others wanting to join them. Unfortunately the new recruits sometimes still want to drive slower than the older members...

Wig

mrbadexample wrote: »

I was being slightly presumptuous - you said: "I was in a 7.5T truck once", which seemed to suggest that it was not a recent experience. The requirement to fit a speed limiter in vehicles of 3501kg - 7500kg is a relatively recent one, only being enforced within the last year or so. If your truck did not require a speed limiter to be fitted, you were quite within your rights to use the outside lane.

Not if had been fitted with one, regardless of whether it was required, if it had been fitted with one it would be illegal to use the 3rd lane on a 3 lane motorway AFAIK.

They started limiting 3.5T - 7.5T on Jan 1st 2005 (3 years ago), did not apply to all, some came in on 1st Jan 2006, some on 1st Jan 2007 & the last date was 1/Jan/08
Exemptions being pre 1/10/2001 trucks, and those without Euro 3 engines, though how a post 1/10/01 truck would have euro 2 engines fitted I have no idea.