Depression and Obesity. Thats me!

Pinkylouloubell

Hi Lisa,

Hope you are well.

You kind of sound a wee bit like me,

I too amd overweight and suffer from anxiety/depression.

I think I have a Binge Eating/Overeating Disorder and have been with one counsellor for 2 years and another for 6 moths so far.

I just find it SOOOO hard to break the viscious circle and stay on track with healthy eating.

Ive tried weight watcher, slim fast, hypnotherapy, counselling, low fat, low calorie and a few more different types of diets, but when I wasnt food I HAVE TO HAVE it, its as though I have no choice at all!!

I am so desperate to lose weight now, weigh 19 stone ( at least I can admit to that now)

my health is really begining to suffer and I just feel so tired and lethargic all the time.

Are you actually having CBT therapy now??

Take care,

Lisa
Pinkylouloubell

absolutebounder

lexa34 wrote: »

Hello Absolutebounder (great name by the way-did you choose it or dubbed it??),

It comes from my love of the actor Terry Thomas

I am sure the "not personal" angle is right but it you are really skint I hope it is better than nothing until one could afford sessions!

I saw an ok clinical psychologist today, after a delightful signing on session, who seems to think I could be ok to join a group for group therapy (funnily enough). Diet is sliding again... tried to make not so bad for you fiary cakes last night but they went rather wrong so put (lower fat) butter icing on them to make them more edible!!! Oh dear. Oh well.

Ha Ha cost wise you dont know untill you ask. i dont charge MSErs who are near and as Im in London most of the time. Obviously I have to fit people around my schedule but thats fairly easy. You could PM me and the worst you would pay is my travelling expenses if you want me to come to you.
Whatever you do though stop obsessing with fat. 1) low carb diets work better and 2) if you think about food you shoulnt eat you want it. Find something else to focus on like sign up for the london marathon next year and focus on how much you could earn fotr charity and your body will soon change

BigMummaF

So...what is it you actually do AB? A kind of counselling therapy for depressives, or advise about dietry needs, CBT.....sorry, I'm just getting confused now

absolutebounder

BigMummaF wrote: »

So...what is it you actually do AB? A kind of counselling therapy for depressives, or advise about dietry needs, CBT.....sorry, I'm just getting confused now

What do I do? Good Question. i am trained as a hypnotherapist but I go further than that. I use a concoction of various techniques that are rooted in hypnosis. Treatment with me will probably contain NLP hypnosis CBT CMT life coaching in greater or smaller amounts. I try to get quick solutions rather than rip a patient off with loads of sesssions.
Depression is often closely linked in with other things. Weight problems being one of them so I try talking to patient to find what the real root cause is. Is it say comfort eating or something else. One patient made herself fat so that her husband wouldent fancy having sex with her. Deep down your unconcious mind seeks to protect you so when something appears to contradict this I look for what your mind is getting out of the condition and then seek to realign that thought. Regression features a lot because it gets to the cause in a few minutes. but I treat everyone differently.

BigMummaF

I hope you didn't mind my asking & many thanks for your reply.
I have to say, that on my part, I truly cannot identify why I feel the way I do

I've always been over-weight; I am soo much like my father's side of the family going back at least two generations, & it gets really demotivating that so-called experts refuse to take genetic history into account. For those who are mere pounds over what they would like to be, sure! Cut back on the carbs/fat/whatever & that WILL work for you. B

But to have lived a LIFETIME being stones away from some pip-squeak's idea of "normal"...think again sunshine! To live every day with the ridicule & disparaging remarks; every aspect of your life held up as fair game for humour; to be continually told you don't fit in....THAT takes some doing my friend. Every mouthful of food you have has been scrutinised for nutritional values; every report on whether over-dosing on lettuce will lead to renal failure; every clothes shop manager sniggering as you scan the racks for something--ANYTHING--that will at least fit....Those comments about eating less & exercising more are usually given with genuine desire to "help", but don't you think we've already thought of all that?

Yeah---I want to wake up tomorrow morning being a 5'7" blond size 8 with narrow size 5 feet & 5-figure monthly pay check, but the truth is I shall never be that. I just want people to ACCEPT the way I am & at least credit me with the intelligence to know what I can & can't eat.

My magic wand would create a true genius who could explain why, when two people can eat exactly the same foods & live exactly the same lifestyle, one will always be over-weight.

Perhaps now, after baring my soul, I do have an inkling of why I'm feeling a deeper shade of midnight blue:o Boy AB....you're gooood:rotfl:

absolutebounder

BigMummaF wrote: »

I hope you didn't mind my asking & many thanks for your reply.
I have to say, that on my part, I truly cannot identify why I feel the way I do

I've always been over-weight; I am soo much like my father's side of the family going back at least two generations, & it gets really demotivating that so-called experts refuse to take genetic history into account. For those who are mere pounds over what they would like to be, sure! Cut back on the carbs/fat/whatever & that WILL work for you. B

But to have lived a LIFETIME being stones away from some pip-squeak's idea of "normal"...think again sunshine! To live every day with the ridicule & disparaging remarks; every aspect of your life held up as fair game for humour; to be continually told you don't fit in....THAT takes some doing my friend. Every mouthful of food you have has been scrutinised for nutritional values; every report on whether over-dosing on lettuce will lead to renal failure; every clothes shop manager sniggering as you scan the racks for something--ANYTHING--that will at least fit....Those comments about eating less & exercising more are usually given with genuine desire to "help", but don't you think we've already thought of all that?

Yeah---I want to wake up tomorrow morning being a 5'7" blond size 8 with narrow size 5 feet & 5-figure monthly pay check, but the truth is I shall never be that. I just want people to ACCEPT the way I am & at least credit me with the intelligence to know what I can & can't eat.

My magic wand would create a true genius who could explain why, when two people can eat exactly the same foods & live exactly the same lifestyle, one will always be over-weight.

Perhaps now, after baring my soul, I do have an inkling of why I'm feeling a deeper shade of midnight blue:o Boy AB....you're gooood:rotfl:

You would do well for me to accept its all genetic but i can accept some involvement as some people simply are bigger than others. Simple science dictates if more is put in than burnt it gets stored and as carbohydrate cant be stored in any noticeable amount carbs get converted to fat. Muscles burn more than fat but do you want to look like a weight lifter:rotfl:
the mind intervenes in everything you do so that to me is a good place to start but the loss has to be gradual and slow plus it has to have a goal to aim for.

belfastgirl23

Hi Lisa

just wondering how you're getting on?

sarah1980

Others may have heard me harping on about Overeaters Anonymous on here before. Sorry, I have not read the entire thread (10 pages!) but if I can just say I think diets/slimming clubs work for those who have no real idea about nutrition and have put on weight through eating a bit too much of the wrong things. For me, I am a food addict, binge eater and former anorexic. There are certain foods I cannot eat in moderation, despite knowing more about calories, fat, carbs, GI and nutrition than most doctors I find myself unable to stop. This is because I am uncomfortable in my own skin, and the only way to take my mind off this is to eat. When I am eating for a brief moment I am not thinking about my problems, and all seems well in the world.

I didn't put on weight from eating a few of the wrong things, I put on weight by eating constantly, avoiding everything except food and bingeing uncontrollably. Even when I was anorexic and very underweight I didn't feel any better about myself.

OA is a solution to the underlying problem, but the first thing (and hardest thing!) you have to do is see the weight loss as a "bonus" to getting your head well. That is, once you're thinking straight the weight will take care of itself (and you have to trust that it will - it is so hard I know!).

And of course the best thing about OA is that it is FREE :-)

xx

lexa34

Hey Lisa,

You still about?

xx

belfastgirl23

Yeah, how you getting on Lisa, I'm back on the weightloss bandwagon too hopefully....