Depression and Obesity. Thats me!

absolutebounder

lisa_martin wrote: »

Hi there,

Thanks for youe input, Its hard for me to talk about me and what I am going through but I know I will get there in the end. I suppose its not just CBT im doing, I am having all forms of counselling with. My goal Is to be Lisa. I don't really remember who Lisa is, but I will find out.

The weight loss is long term I suppose as I have 3 stones to lose. Its a common thing with depression to shove the weight on quickly innit. I have been overweight for 2 years now but I think one of the reasons I don't go out often now is because of the weight. I know I have to do something about it. In 18months 2 years time I'd like to be the Lisa I once was.

xx Lisa

I have picked up on an interesting bit you wrote there. From your wording You seem to want to be someone that you were in the past. Sorry but the past has moved on and if you were to find that Lisa again you probably would find she was no longer appropriate to today. I think actually you need to find the Lisa of today. Not the Lisa you want the world to see not the Lisa you may want to be but the Lisa you actually are. By trying to be something in the eyes of other people that you are not you end up with weak realities which constanly need the support of others to maintain them whereas if you can build your own reality on self esteem you will be much stronger.
Be the person you are, sod what others think just be proud of being a human. If you go out I can assure you you will find loads of happy people with a lot more than 3st to shed. If someone judges you badly just because of shape then that person has more problems than you. Sucess will breed self esteem so if you lose even a pound then you have something to be proud of.
I dont know how much of that you have heard from your CCBT bod but life is too short to be depressed.

BigMummaF

It's good to see open discussion about Depression, without the usual cliche throw-backs.

Trouble is, very often, the person who is living with the ILLNESS cannot understand the reasoning behind it themselves. In my own case, I sometimes wonder if I have reached saturation point from all the years of suppressing my true feelings...y'know...like when you're 14 & you really really fancy that boy from 5B but he asks your best budd out instead, & you make like everything is fine cuz you want them to be happy even tho your own world is shattered? Then it becomes impossible to identify which episodes need to be addressed.

I know in adult life that example seems superficial, but at the time it hurts as much as any grown up pain and if you have enough of those strong, negative emotions over a life span, it has to manifest somewhere surely

As you can probably tell I'm not that clued up on The Black Mist either, but I felt I had to make a concerted effort to explain my theory.

absolutebounder

BigMummaF wrote: »

It's good to see open discussion about Depression, without the usual cliche throw-backs.

Trouble is, very often, the person who is living with the ILLNESS cannot understand the reasoning behind it themselves. .

This is the reason I like hypnotic regression. Many therapists are scared of it incase patient has an abreaction but I find that if that happens you have definitely found the source.
Very often with regression what the client tells you they think the problem is turns out to be a trigger that brought something else into the equation. This something else is often trivial and easily sorted out once the person understands what it was.

BigMummaF

Didn't think they could still do hypnosis......sounds interesting tho.

Where would you suggest I could look for a reputable practitioner? My mind works in weird & wonderful ways, so any way someone could oik out the nasties....& I'm there!

absolutebounder

BigMummaF wrote: »

Didn't think they could still do hypnosis......sounds interesting tho.

Where would you suggest I could look for a reputable practitioner? My mind works in weird & wonderful ways, so any way someone could oik out the nasties....& I'm there!

Google the general hypnotherapy register. depending where you are on the south coast there is a very good lady called sue pullen.
I must point out that certain conditions are contraindicated for hypnosis and they are unlikely to touch you if you are on medication unless doctor gives it the OK

AngelBadger

I'm in a very similar position to you. I have been suffering from depression and anxiety on & off for 5 years. I am also obese being a hefty 9 stone overweight. Ouch, it hurts to admit that. And I find that its all a vicious circle. I wish I could tell you the answers cos I certainly don't have a clue. lol. But I would recommend a website https://www.dailystrength.com , I have been on there for over a year now and the support you get on there is amazing. U can make friends with people going through exactly the same things so you don't feel so alone. It has helped me immensley talking about my problems rather than bottling them up.
Good Luck xxx

lisa_martin_2

Hello, I haven't updated for a few days now so here goes.

This week has been a bit exciting and a bit challenging. Thing is I have started a DIET I am not following a specific diet just eating good health foods and NO SNACKING. But I have been a little naughty and have weighed myself this morning (I really need to hide those scales) have lost 4 pounds (i shouldn't have weighed until Monday morning :mad:. The hardest thing I am facing at the moment is not to snack when I am bored, I have to remember that I am not hungry and only eating because my mind is bored. Remembering that is hard as I have a crap memory. I haven't snacked at all though and I am keeping a food diary. The real challenge will be when my husband goes out tonight fishing. I have realised that this is the time when I mostly eat crap and junk so the challenge will be on for tonight.

I haven't had a drink or a ciggy for 2 weeks now either. Smoking doesn't bother me, its something I've done whislt drinkin only.

I have challenged myself to not drink a drop of alcohol until August the 15th. This is when we go to Wales for a camping weekend with my Father and step mam (its my fathers 65th birthday) So I will be having a treat weekend that weekend. we come back on Monday 18th August when I am back on the straight and narrow until half term finishes 3rd September.

I hope I am strong enough to do it, I'd like to lose a stone in weight by the time term time starts.

Do you think I can do it?:eek:

I haven't had breakfast yet so I guess I better go off and have some, 2 pices if toast I think.

BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOR NOW.

lexa34

Firstly, I think this Lisa seems brave, honest and is on her path for being happier with herself and the world. It is admirable (not trying to sound patronising/ cheesy but couldn't think of another word!) that you have recognised how you want to evolve/ develop and you have gained some understanding of why you may be like you are with the overweight and depression thing. Sadly, there are people who do not try and sort themselves out at all and this is worth recognising. I can beat myself up for not being good enough or sorted enough by now and think I am just lazy/ pathetic/ weak/ stupid/ blaming crap that happened earlier in my life excuse ridden rubbish person but now part of me thinks actually, under the circumstances I am doing pretty damn ok!!! I think I can relate to what you said about more tricky stuff to go through with your therapy. Sometimes it does get worse before it can get better, poking around in past unpleasant things or realising painful stuff isn't as nice as say eating a knickerbocker glory but long run it will be better for you!!

I missed appointment with psychologist last week. Feel bad. Rang enxt day and apologised but I hadn't send off questionaire thingy and was knackered and in bed most of day then slept through to the next morning!!! Hope they will still see me. I need some more therapy. I know we are all "unfinished works" but I do have some more work I need to with with professional help as I can't seem to get any further on my own.

Right, off to find some ice-cream....JOKE. I will be experimenting with some icelolly moulds muller light, fruit squash's and low cal lemonade!!

Food diaries good but tricky so keep it up! Interesting you have identified that when your partner goes out that is danger time for you. Is it t to have your shameful secret of loving yummy stuff, or you are comforting yourself for being on your own, or going into child mode because the "parent" figure has gone or so you don't have to share ha! haaaaaaaa! Well, I whatever you think it may be I can understand the bored thing. Nothing seems as good to replace it with at this stage though... that is what is good about SW. You eat healthily but tasty and if you need to then you can snack. Nothing is forbidden. Soon as I say to my self I can't have this or that then I am like " giveme, givmee, givmeeeeeee!!".

Sorry: I will be joining psychobabblers anon soon...

I get weighed only once a week at class and I find this is helpful as it is keeping tabs on it but not obsessing about it. Roll on Wednesday.

Keep up the good work. I am going to MAKE myself go for a walk tomorrow morning (cooler then!). Plus I know that if I cna get myself to do it then it will set me up well for the day feeling positive, proud I had done it, help with weight loss etc... I have just been refered to Healthy wise through Doc for cheap/ free gym membership if you fancy checking out what is in your local area. I have just been diagnosed as being anemic which for me is quite excited and goes towards why I am tired all the time, extra sweaty etc... roll on iron tab's on prescription!!

Oohh, and I actually went out last night. Was 2nd fattest in room but I knew I actually looked nicer than some of the others. Had new dress on (£30 off voucher from littlewoods and pay next year but will pay off before then so MSEish!!), and put some makeup on etc... and thought about my accessories and felt not too bad about myself. I know I would have looked even better 1/2/3 sizes smaller but I was alright!! I had a nice time!

Keep up good work.

Lexa
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absolutebounder

teddyboy50 wrote: »

You could try www.hypnosisdirect.com. they have loads of weight loss sessions that you can download and listen too. They are running a buy two, get one free at the moment.

aslo, just to try out, they are running a freebie download that I came across in another post http://www.hypnosisdirect.com/guardian

good luck.

They are not much good. Scripts are not individual plus after a couple of goes you getr bored coz you know whats coming.
Real live hypnotherapy session is much better in long run

lexa34

Hello Absolutebounder (great name by the way-did you choose it or dubbed it??),

I am sure the "not personal" angle is right but it you are really skint I hope it is better than nothing until one could afford sessions!

I saw an ok clinical psychologist today, after a delightful signing on session, who seems to think I could be ok to join a group for group therapy (funnily enough). Diet is sliding again... tried to make not so bad for you fiary cakes last night but they went rather wrong so put (lower fat) butter icing on them to make them more edible!!! Oh dear. Oh well.

Helllllllllllllllllllo Lisa, how is it going? Are you having net connection probs or something else?? Hope all is well.

x