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holiday s whilst on jobseekers allowance?

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  • Morglin
    Morglin Posts: 15,922 Forumite
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    I work bl**dy hard and can not afford a holiday this year due to hours cutting back, increased council tax and utilities prices.

    IT MAKES ME FURIOUS TO SEE HOW MUCH SOME OF YOU SPONGERS GET AND MOAN THAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING PAID WHILST ON A JOLLY

    :mad:

    JSA = job seekers allowance not costa del sol spending money

    I just wish i didn't have to pay council tax, had my rent paid for and basically lived the life of luxury whilst entering competitions on line all day! (check the posts of the people who are receiving every benefit under the sun, all they do is comp!)

    Right rant over.

    Back to work - those on this forum look it up in the dictionary :rotfl:

    Calm down dear - you're getting stressed because you obviously don't really understand the benefit system.;)

    The ONLY people that get all of their rent/CT paid are those on what is known as the 'poverty line', and therefore recieve means tested benefits.

    For legions of others who recieve IB, ESA, JSA, Tax Credits, Child Benefit, pensions etc., - they will not necessarily be getting any help with rent and/or council tax.

    They will also, in many cases, be paying income tax.

    I don't know many out of work leading any sort of 'life of luxury' although I can't comment on competitions lol

    But, if you think life would be this good if you became unemployed, well, then you have the choice, don't you?

    Give up your job and then sit back and wait for the dosh to come flooding in.................but, after 6 months, do come back and let us know how you're getting on with your new wealth...................:whistle::rotfl:


    Lin ;)
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  • Tim_Box
    Tim_Box Posts: 1 Newbie
    edited 28 August 2011 at 1:21AM
    They certainly like keeping tabs on you, don't they. 1984 and big brother. It amazes me every time I sign on that they don't want to know what colour knickers I am wearing that day - seems they want to know everything else about one's movements and personal life-and all for a few measly pounds that you wouldn't pay someone to do a paper round. Also if I was a convicted criminal and was locked up it would cost considerably more to keep me incarcerated in prison than it does living in accommodation as an honest citizen and claiming jsa. I sign on and claim jsa. Have done for a long time. I have done work in the past and found it personally depressing and life draining with no prospect of ever becoming more than an impoverished wage slave. I put a value on my time. No job would meet my value. JSA is well below that value but at least having my time as mine and not prostituting my self for min wage to a stranger makes me feel I am at least been true to my self and gives me a feeling of self worth which a job would never do. I haven't taken a holiday for a long time so I try and treat every day I am on jsa as a holiday. I would have no qualms about taking a holiday if I got the opportunity -and I wouldn't be staying in £1000 a night holiday hotels in the US like the dear mp who wants to skim even more benefits off benefit claimants. I would hate having to tell the government busy bodies at the job centre though what my schedule would be while I was on holiday or have to show them I was still job seeking while away from them-what next-having to register temporarily at a job centre where I am on holiday? While claiming jsa I still have to jump through the hoops to qualify for jsa-apply for jobs I don't really want etc as failure to do so would give them the opportunity to fully destitute me. As regards taking a holiday whilst on jsa I'm just amazed they haven't yet considered attaching radio controlled ankle bracelets to the unemployed so they can keep track on our movement that way. I have also suffered from long term depression and stress and if it gets bad I can suffer from hallucinations. Thankfully it's not constant but it can strike from out of the blue for no apparent reason just when things seem to be going good. Then I have to resort back to medication and or cut myself off from social interaction and literally spend a lot of time alone in a quiet darkened room! However, the government having sent me on a compulsory medical check to one of their private agency doctors to assess me to see if they could get me off any form of disability allowance (which at present offers a few odd pounds above jsa) decided that because I was able to bend over and touch my toes and was capable of making myself a cup of tea (sic) that I was therefore able to work and would therefore have to sign on for jsa. Their doctor was not interested in my stress or depression, or my hallucinations. Just in getting me onto minimum possible benefit ala jsa. So I have no misgivings or sense of "shame" about claiming jsa and for as long as I can since obviously they have no care about my medical condition and are only interested in giving me the minimum support they can legally get away with and would even deny me that if they could. If I decide to go on holiday in the uk for a few days I will get a friend to book the holiday for me in his/her name and then happily bog off for a few days and forget all about the job centre and their government snoop lackeys. My business is my business. I would advise anyone else to do likewise.
  • skintas_2
    skintas_2 Posts: 1,679 Forumite
    i thinkif you suffer depression bit like me you deserve a break, i sufferd wuth my depression bad last year i went on holdaiy this year did me the world of good. my brother few year back told them he was goin on holiday he went to gambia. they asked him if he was taking the micheal in the jobcentre, his holiday was booked before he lost his job
    i will be debt free, i will
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 28 August 2011 at 6:56AM
    @ Credit-Crunched:

    In my home town over the last couple of years, Woolworths, Matalan and TJ Hughes have all closed. These are all major employers for retail workers. Goodyears closed some years ago, the last major employer for factory workers. The Council is making people redundant, a major employer of administrative staff.

    All these people have been put out of work through no fault of their own. Not all of them will be able to find other jobs.

    My son was lucky. Made redundant from Matalan, he was able to get another job at Morrisons, straight away. His friend was not so lucky. Despite having applied for hundreds of jobs and having several interviews, he still has not managed to find work.

    He is now volunteering in the hope a job will come from it.

    Not all unemployed people are scroungers.
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  • paulmcd201 wrote: »
    could you point me in the right direction with regards to this, links to where this is written o i can take it to the job centre myself please

    Try this link to the regulations...

    www . legislation . gov . uk / uksi / 1996 / 207 / contents / made

    (remove the spaces)

    This clearly states you can go abroad for two weeks AND still be classed "as actively seeking employment"

    For those that say anyone on JSA should not have a holiday.... would you also agree that your wages are stopped when you are on holiday and that you should reaply for your job back on return?

    Just a thought!
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    Freddy64 wrote: »
    Try this link to the regulations...

    www . legislation . gov . uk / uksi / 1996 / 207 / contents / made

    (remove the spaces)

    This clearly states you can go abroad for two weeks AND still be classed "as actively seeking employment"

    For those that say anyone on JSA should not have a holiday.... would you also agree that your wages are stopped when you are on holiday and that you should reaply for your job back on return?

    Just a thought!

    Which regulation clearly states that? What about availability?

    It's not a condition of my employment that I be in GB
  • Circumstances in which a person is to be treated as actively seeking employment

    19.—(1) A person shall be treated as actively seeking employment in the following circumstances, subject to paragraph (2) and to any maximum period specified in this paragraph—

    (p)in any week in respect of which he has given notice to an employment officer, in writing if so required by the employment officer, that—
    (i)he does not intend to be actively seeking employment, but
    (ii)he does intend to reside at a place other than his usual place of residence for at least one day;

    (2) In any period of 12 months a person shall be treated as actively seeking employment under paragraph (1)(p) only for the number of weeks specified in one of the following sub-paragraphs—
    (a)a maximum of 2 weeks; or
  • i think that is an 'old' regulation, it has been superceded by another one which cancels that out
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    No, it's a perfectly valid regulation it just doesn't say anything about going abroad. It also is referring to ASE when it is availability which is the issue when going abroad
  • "reside at a place other than his usual place of residence for at least one day"

    This does not specfy that the "other place" be in GB.
    Also these regs are for JSA (as per title) not ESA.
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