What can i feed the fussiest eater in the world?

faithcecilia

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

Was that after the parents made their observations? I would have thought they would need to treat the children exactly the same except for the food provided in order to come to any conclusions.

I think for most of it they were all mixed up, it was just the food that was different - I remember the clowns but not the yoga (not saying it didnt happen, just I don't remember). Its repeated on one of the sky/cable channels quite often so might have to rewatch it.

faithcecilia

This is the programme http://www.channel4.com/programmes/jo-frost-extreme-parental-guidance/4od#3149383 All the children did the same activities - bouncy castle then magic show - just the food was different.

Mojisola

faithcecilia wrote: »

This is the programme http://www.channel4.com/programmes/jo-frost-extreme-parental-guidance/4od#3149383 All the children did the same activities - bouncy castle then magic show - just the food was different.

Didn't they tell the parents that the sugar-loaded party was the sugar-free one and vice versa? They then asked the parents about the children's behaviour and the parents' replies were skewed by the reaction they were anticipating from their children.

It would have been a better study if the parents hadn't been fed a line about the parties. They would have got objective results. All this proved was that people's assessments can be skewed if you give them false information.

Alleycat wrote: »

We've got DD's friend over today until 6pm, so lunch and dinner required. I knew she had quite a strict diet but didn't realise how strict. The things I had planned that I thought would be safe aren't. She is a pescatarian, who doesn't have sugar, wheat (only eats rye bread but can sometimes have wholemeal pasta), is allergic to mushrooms and doesn't have lactose so only has rice milk and minimal cheese. Mum has brought snacks of specialist yoghurt and oatcakes.

I would be quite cross with the child's mother. If her daughter needs a special diet for health reasons, Mum should be providing what she eats or at least a very clear list of safe foods. If it's just because she's a faddy eater, I would let her take a chance with whatever food I had in. Who knows, she may find that she likes things that she doesn't eat at home!

faithcecilia

Mojisola wrote: »

Didn't they tell the parents that the sugar-loaded party was the sugar-free one and vice versa? They then asked the parents about the children's behaviour and the parents' replies were skewed by the reaction they were anticipating from their children.

It would have been a better study if the parents hadn't been fed a line about the parties. They would have got objective results. All this proved was that people's assessments can be skewed if you give them false information.

No, all the parents knew was that half the children would be given sugary food and the other half given low sugar food, they weren't told which (either correctly or incorrectly) until they had guessed which their child had been given.

Pink.

Hi Alleycat,

Martin has asked us not to post duplicate threads so I've merged both of yours together to keep the suggestions in one place.

Pink

happy35

the mother should have suggested things that you could feed her if she wasnt going to provide you with a something ready prepared

It does sound like she has some allergies and some self diagnosed intolerances by her mother, I hope that her parents are ensuring that she gets all the vitamins that she needs

DS had a friend from a veggie family who doesn't like veg, I am veggie so not a problem but his mother insisted he was given pizza chips and beans. If they were having something he didn't like he had to go without so once had a plate of new potatoes for tea, DS liked what they were having so had a proper tea but came back upset that his friend had only had 4 new potatoes for tea !!!

JulieGeorgiana

Well I disagree about the sugar not effecting moods and behaviour. I have had to cut out sugar and foods which make my blood sugar levels rise (ie. carbs)... and was so shocked by how much my own mood and behaviour has changed... I am calmer and more relaxed, less stressed, less mood swings (I used to have a typical red-headed temper).

It is possible that because the sugar makes me produce too much insulin that it was the insulin which causes these behaviours, but my son's diet has change some too and he's much calmer.... This week he's at his Grandma, and he called me tonight, and he's all hyper and won't concentrate and coming out which weird noises... so I asked what he's eaten... non stop sugar for 4 days!

I could tell from 30 seconds on the phone... the difference between an excited child and a child hocked up on sugar and e-numbers is completely different... and you can tell! Fanta takes 6 hours before he'll calm down....!

However, I limit sugar at home, and we eat wholemeal and Rye... but when at others I let him eat whatever he is given (Apart from Fanta)

caroline1973lefty

poor mite... has she ever actually been diagnosed by a doctor or other health professional (nutritionist, herbalist, etc) as having a wheat intolerance, 'allergies', yeast overgrowth, candida, etc? if not, how have the parents diagnosed it? it depresses me how many people are willing to inflict faddy and restrictive diets on themselves that probably deprive them of a balanced range of nutrients. even more depressing to do it to a small child, however well intentionedly!

Mojisola

faithcecilia wrote: »

No, all the parents knew was that half the children would be given sugary food and the other half given low sugar food, they weren't told which (either correctly or incorrectly) until they had guessed which their child had been given.

I must be thinking of another programme because I remember discussing it afterwards. They did show a valid point in that parents sometimes see results that they are expecting but not the point they were making, ie that sugar didn't affect children.

JulieGeorgiana wrote: »

Well I disagree about the sugar not effecting moods and behaviour. I have had to cut out sugar and foods which make my blood sugar levels rise (ie. carbs)... and was so shocked by how much my own mood and behaviour has changed... I am calmer and more relaxed, less stressed, less mood swings (I used to have a typical red-headed temper).

It is possible that because the sugar makes me produce too much insulin that it was the insulin which causes these behaviours, but my son's diet has change some too and he's much calmer.... This week he's at his Grandma, and he called me tonight, and he's all hyper and won't concentrate and coming out which weird noises... so I asked what he's eaten... non stop sugar for 4 days!

I could tell from 30 seconds on the phone... the difference between an excited child and a child hocked up on sugar and e-numbers is completely different... and you can tell! Fanta takes 6 hours before he'll calm down....!

However, I limit sugar at home, and we eat wholemeal and Rye... but when at others I let him eat whatever he is given (Apart from Fanta)

As Julie says - there are some cases where a definite association can be seen.

caroline1973lefty wrote: »

poor mite... has she ever actually been diagnosed by a doctor or other health professional (nutritionist, herbalist, etc) as having a wheat intolerance, 'allergies', yeast overgrowth, candida, etc? if not, how have the parents diagnosed it? it depresses me how many people are willing to inflict faddy and restrictive diets on themselves that probably deprive them of a balanced range of nutrients. even more depressing to do it to a small child, however well intentionedly!

I wonder whether this little soul is the victim of home diagnosis. I find it hard to believe that any child with proven problems would be sent off without more care being taken about the food she would be eating.

I'd love to hear what she actually ate while with Alleycat.

sarahsarah

Mojisola wrote: »

I must be thinking of another programme because I remember discussing it afterwards. They did show a valid point in that parents sometimes see results that they are expecting but not the point they were making, ie that sugar didn't affect children.

I think there was something like this on a Robert Winston programme too.. I thought they were the same children, on 2 different days.. they definitely did yoga/relaxation after the sugary food and running around party games after the non-sugar food..