Warning My Car Has Been Stolen

will69

PasturesNew wrote: »

This happened to a friend of mine 1-2 years back.

Thieves broke into the house, took the keys and took both the cars. They were specifically targetted for tasty cars.

Then in the night in the last month, her mum was woken up in the middle of the night. She threw on all the house lights .....

.... they had come back. They had disconnected all exterior power to the house (floodlights etc), they had completely removed the one window that wasn't alarmed. They were just getting into the house when they were heard and ran off when all the interior lights went on in the house.

The police said it's quite common. Having seen the shiny replacement cars in the drive, they had come back to try to get them. And this time they thought they knew where the keys were kept. But the keys weren't kept there any more ... makes you wonder to what lengths they might have gone to if they had been determined to find the keys and were not disturbed.

This was southern England.

God this is awful and this is what I am worried about too that they will come back, it is impossible to secure a house , if they want in they will get in, and it is really scary where the heck can you hide keys and all personal stuff and if they cant find will the theiving gits do harm to the people in your house??
I have just been speaking to my insurance and the process he said will be quick but my husband and I are both without our cars cant get to work etc so much upset and what is happening to the scumm that have our cars?? nothing and stealing some other poor sods car:mad:
Also our local paper put a horrible report of our robbery in the paper without our permission saying a quote That the couple were overly confident having pricy cars in their drive (what the Hell is that all about ???) we worked damed hard for those carsand if you knew me you would know Im not overly confident about anything:mad:
It seems as if once shafted it happens again and again...................:eek:
Is there any light in the tunnel of doom

will69

anewman wrote: »

From manual http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/clifford/G919640_11-06post.pdf

how would this work in my case? the cars were stolen while we were asleep, between 4am&5am... we did not notice them missing until 9am,and when my husbands car was found (thanks to the Tracker)it had just been left on a street with no keys...would this device Blackjax work in this case??
Im sure my car is hidden in a lock up so if it was fitted with the Blackjax would the scum bags be able to see it?

anewman

You enter the pin code on a discreet 2 button switch consisting of a star and a blank button. The default pin is 2, so you press the star twice then the blank button once to confirm that number as a 2. This switch is so small it could be hidden somewhere, and it is the same switch as used on all Clifford alarm systems so doesn't signify it has blackjax. The pin can consist of 1 to 4 numbers but the first number cannot be zero for some reason.

As for whether it would work with the car unattended, as far as I can tell from the manual, it needs the pin entering whenever you turn the ignition on or open the door whilst the car is running. However, it is clear that once blackjax has disabled the car, the car is completely disabled until the pin is entered and even the alarm fob will not deactivate it. I suppose that doesn't stop someone burning out your car, or damaging it, but with a siren going off it's probably unlikely.

When BlackJax is programmed ON, BlackJax sequence will begin every
time the ignition is turned on and must be turned off by entering your
PIN code. It will then activate again while driving when triggered.

Have just thought, the different Clifford systems can be identified through their different fobs. So if someone stole the keys and fob, and they were experienced knowledgeable criminals and knew the Clifford systems inside out, they might realise at that point it may have blackjax.

Also just thought, a cheaper way of achieving a good result could be an alarm system that lets you re-configure the buttons on the fob for different functions, I know that Clifford systems let you do this - I am sure others will too but don't know which ones. So when the thief steals your keys and fob and presses the arm/disarm button, they will either try to open the door while locked with the alarm on, or not realise why the system hasn't disarmed.

If you can find an approved Clifford installer somewhere near you could be worth having a chat with them to see what they can do. Try http://www.clifford.co.uk/Support/RetailerLocator.aspx

Oh boy I sound like a salesman for them, sorry. Please someone, name a good car security system that lets you reconfigure the buttons and require a pin entry to prevent the car stopping

iolanthe07

What a terrible experience; I hope you're starting to get over it. I still think the best thing is to lock your car in the garage; at least it's out of sight.

saintjanet

Doozergirl wrote: »

When I spoke to my insurance company the other day, they told me it makes no difference where you park it despite the question still being asked. He told me that aren't based on that anymore so it's the same price whether you park on the drive or in the garage. It's more down to postcode than anything.

This may be correct with some companies but try to insure a porsche thats not in a garage and often they will not quote or if they do ,they increase the premium by a huge amount.

Even when my m-in-law changed companies last year and told them her little car was behind locked gates they said "its a pity you don't have a garage,it would be slightly cheaper" this is in a good area,so who knows,

Networkguy

Doozergirl wrote: »

When I spoke to my insurance company the other day, they told me it makes no difference where you park it despite the question still being asked. He told me that aren't based on that anymore so it's the same price whether you park on the drive or in the garage. It's more down to postcode than anything.

Not true

I was in a similar position last time I renewed. I knew the car would spend more time on the drive than the garage so I asked them to quote me for both.

Parking on the drive and not in the garage added £12 a year to the quote (this was with Direct Line).

Now some companies may not choose to charge extra BUT if you tell them that you are keeping it in the garage and are not then you have just given them a great excuse not to pay (not that they need much of an excuse).

anewman

Hi Will69, hope things are better now. Just came across this video illustrating how the blackjax works so thought I would post it here.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6d194Bem0xg&feature=related

will69

anewman wrote: »

Hi Will69, hope things are better now. Just came across this video illustrating how the blackjax works so thought I would post it here.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6d194Bem0xg&feature=related

thanks for that here is a quick up-date my car was found on monday it was used for another car theft, this time the theives got away with 80grands worth two cars and left mine in the peoples drive!!! the police have advised me not to get the car back as he said that you never know what these theives have done to it.....still waiting on the insurance to get their finger out 4 weeks later.... and the insurance have been totally incompetent with my hubbys car delivered it to the wrong garage, car ended up in a lock up over the weeked then they lost the key:mad: then they delivered the car to the right garage without a key and just left it on the road-side (theives still have the original keys ) I wonder why we honest people get such a hard time