Warning My Car Has Been Stolen

Wig

will69 wrote: »

they must have been watching our movements because there is no way of knowing where our house is

If I were you I'd be asking the DVLA if anyone has requested the data on your car registrations. Because that is one way the criminals can find out where a car lives at night.

will69

Wig wrote: »

If I were you I'd be asking the DVLA if anyone has requested the data on your car registrations. Because that is one way the criminals can find out where a car lives at night.

thank never thought of that:T
Ive just been on the phone to them and got to write a letter now:T

Stephb1986_2

Hiya im sure the people of scoobynet will help you out

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/non-scooby-related-4/

they are pretty good at keeping heads up i hope you find your car soon

Stephb xxx

anewman

will69 wrote: »

surely if these scum bags got decent job and became responsible humans then the world would be a better place

Unfortunately I suspect the only way is to round them all up and stick them on an island together, or try resurect something like the Nazi Eugenics program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

There will always be those who have less than those who have more, and inequality will always support crime. It's the big failure of capitalism unfortunately. And even if there wasn't capitalism, people always yearn for something more than what they have, particularly if they have nothing.

I hate the Ch@v scrotes too - got some next door who seem to like messing with my 94 Skoda. I know it's not a brilliant car, but it would be the same (or worse) if it was something nicer like a Bugatti Veyron. Not only is it their kids, it's the adults too, and I caught the adults red-handed putting rubbish on top of my car - on asking what they were doing, they started threatening me like I did something wrong. I decided to install an alarm to try and keep them away from it.

What might be useful for you is getting an alarm installed like the most expensive Clifford alarms. You can have these so you have to put in a pin code, otherwise the car will eventually turn itself off (safely). I think the feature is called black jax. It also works if someone comes up to your car with a gun whilst you're in it, you let the hijacker take the car. The system senses the door has been opened and closed and requsts the pin code, if it is not entered the car stops running. So even if the thief gets your keys etc etc they don't know the pin....

I would recommend looking on the net in forums etc for an approved installer near you that will do a decent job of fitting it (approved doesn't always mean good). I would hazard a guess that this sort of system would cost about £700 fitted and shouldn't void any warranty as I understand it. It is something worth looking into anyway, as considering the amount of money the cars cost... I am sure the little inconvenience of putting in a pin everytime you start the car and open the door would be worth the peace of mind.

A system like this one http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/clifford-concept-650mkii-clifford-security-system-p-1168.html Black Jax is an optional extra.

I personally think they should make a similar system that locks the thieves in and keeps them there till the police come :rotfl:

Best of luck with the insurance claim etc anyway.

stumpjumper

If you're really paranoid about this stuff you could always remove and hide the cars ignition coils or HT leads overnight then it won't be going anywhere, even with the keys. Just don't forget to refit them before you set off again!

Keith

The great thing about blackjax that I've never understood is:-

A. Guy drags you out of your car at traffic lights, gets in the car and goes 100 feet down the road and stops, any thief is going to know that it has blackjax and will come after you.

B. Car goes off drive during night, it stops outside, car thief returns to the house grabs you in bed, scaring the crap out of you and asks you for the code.

I'm sorry for the OP but unfortunately owning expensive cars does attract this kind of attention, chances of it happening again to you are slim so don't worry. Improve security, I'd guess both cars had CAT1 security as standard so maybe a decent house alarm may stop a repeat.

anewman

Keith wrote: »

The great thing about blackjax that I've never understood is:-

A. Guy drags you out of your car at traffic lights, gets in the car and goes 100 feet down the road and stops, any thief is going to know that it has blackjax and will come after you.

B. Car goes off drive during night, it stops outside, car thief returns to the house grabs you in bed, scaring the crap out of you and asks you for the code.

It's supposed to give plenty of time so the thief gets a good distance away from you so they cannot come back after you. I can't imagine a thief would run a mile after you to ask for the code after the car they have just stolen eventually came to a stop and became useless and sounded it's alarm, come beat you up and ask for the code, then run a mile back to the car. They'll just abandon it.

It *has* to give you longer than 100 yards to allow you time to put the pin in if you forget. It will beep after a certain amount of time to remind you to put in the pin and a time later it will start to put the brake lights on, stop the car, and sound the alarm.

Most thieves will want only the keys, and won't know the car has the blackjax system installed unless they have tried to steal it previously, or you have advertised the fact. I like the security through obscurity idea, so probably best not to put the security system stickers on the windows.

I have the cheapest Clifford Alarm, the Arrow 5 and I have to say I'm glad I got it, it's very well thought out and flexible, so I can't see why the black jax system will be any worse thought out.

anewman

From manual http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/clifford/G919640_11-06post.pdf

BlackJax feature

Clifford's exclusive BlackJax feature provides a safe and effective means of recovering your vehicle after a carjacking by monitoring the door
input, brakes, and engine speed. Simply get out of the vehicle and let
the thief drive away.

BlackJax activation

After the vehicle is at a safe distance BlackJax will activate the siren and
brake lights to draw attention to the vehicle. When BlackJax sees the
vehicle slow down or stop, the UltraSecure Immobilizer circuit shuts off
the engine, stranding the thief and vehicle. At this time your transmitter
will not operate the system, only you can turn off the BlackJax by
entering your secret PIN through the PlainView 2 valet switch.

Note: If the driver accidently exits the vehicle and triggers the blackjax
feature, the siren will sound 5 chirps after 20 seconds. The driver then
has 20 seconds to enter the pin code to deactivate the blackjax feature.

When BlackJax is programmed ON, BlackJax sequence will begin every
time the ignition is turned on and must be turned off by entering your
PIN code. It will then activate again while driving when triggered.

note: BlackJax can be turned off by entering PIN code at any time.

BlackJax deactivation sequence

To deactivate BlackJax turn the key on and then enter the PIN code at
any time.

Bypass BlackJax temporarily

This feature allows you to easily bypass BlackJax activation when another
person drives your vehicle that should not know your PIN code. (IE:
valet parking, auto service dept.)

Bypass BlackJax temporarily
1. Turn ignition on.
2. Enter PIN code. Do not enter valet or programming mode.
3. Within 10 seconds press .
4. Siren chirps 1 time as confirmation of BlackJax bypassed.
5. Turn Ignition Off, siren chirps 3 times as confirmation of exiting
programming.

note: If ignition remains on after entering PIN code and no action for 10
seconds, unit will automatically exit programming mode without chirps.

To return to normal BlackJax Operation
1. Turn ignition on.
2. Enter Pin code.
3. Within 10 seconds press .
4. Siren chirps 2 times as confirmation of BlackJax active.
5. Turn ignition off, siren chirps 3 times as confirmation of exiting
programming.

note: If ignition remains on after entering PIN code and no action for 10
seconds, unit will automatically exit programming mode without chirps.

BlackJax off warning indicator

Each time the ignition is turned off when BlackJax is bypassed the LED
will blink 10 times as warning that the BlackJax has been temporarily
bypassed.

will69

anewman wrote: »

From manual http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/og/clifford/G919640_11-06post.pdf

this sounds great :T :T :T just need my car back so I can fit this

PasturesNew

This happened to a friend of mine 1-2 years back.

Thieves broke into the house, took the keys and took both the cars. They were specifically targetted for tasty cars.

Then in the night in the last month, her mum was woken up in the middle of the night. She threw on all the house lights .....

.... they had come back. They had disconnected all exterior power to the house (floodlights etc), they had completely removed the one window that wasn't alarmed. They were just getting into the house when they were heard and ran off when all the interior lights went on in the house.

The police said it's quite common. Having seen the shiny replacement cars in the drive, they had come back to try to get them. And this time they thought they knew where the keys were kept. But the keys weren't kept there any more ... makes you wonder to what lengths they might have gone to if they had been determined to find the keys and were not disturbed.

This was southern England.