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Someone tell me, when is it reasonable time to make noise (DIY)

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  • Well think about this then, they hammer & bang about & you say nothing to them, but you do the same thing & they complain to the council & get you evicted. Yes it could & has happened on more than one occasion.

    In this case you should be taking the moral high ground not involving yourself in a tit for tat noise war with them because it could end up with you losing your house, they have a young child & the advantage over you right now.
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  • looby-loo_2
    looby-loo_2 Posts: 1,566 Forumite
    Unreasonable noise is unreasonable noise no matter what time of day or night & the law has been changed to that effect, next time you might want to let them know in advance that you're going to be making a lot of noise so they can prepare themselves for it & hopefully put off them complaining to you again.

    A little consideration goes a long way.

    I agree but drilling one hole at 7.40 surely can't be classed as unreasonable.

    We had a problem with a neighbour who though she was above everyone and was put out by our planning permission being granted - she felt 'overloooked' yet it is 30 meters from her house! She complained to the LA that our windows were wrong and the council agreed to pay for different ones at an enourmous cost and compensation to us for inconvenience. We objected and it went all the way up the chain and the planning law on that particular point was changed!! We kept our windows but how much must that have cost the tax payer??

    When she continued to complain, to us and the council, it was her that looked silly in the end and they got so fed up with her that they took no notice.

    She moved last year - if you have a new neighbour.......
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  • Can you be evicted from a house you own? That's pretty hard

    Eithe:r - be nice, talk to them like humans, respect them by not making noise in the evenings they can hear and exist in a civilized manner

    Or - 'stick within the law' and do whatever the hell you like between the legal hours, then tell them to shove it when they complain
  • polkadot
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    I dont want to be funny, but I have a toddler of 18 months and we live in a studio. I think a huge reason why kids have such trouble getting to sleep is because when we bring then home we switch off all the noise. When I had my DS I lived with my folks for a bit and when we came home my mum put him in my room and left the door open and got on with the hoovering. He sleeps through everything and thats the way it should be.19:40 is not an unreasonable time to do such small tasks-and as for during the day-doesn't she get the poor child out to socialise a bit?Probably her real problem.
  • 8am to 8pm doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Nothing "concrete" to point to, to confirm this is OK .... but given that most of us work, then some evening "disturbance" is to be expected.

    !!!!!! - some people can hear their neighbours' TV later than 8pm .... or dogs barking ... or kids screaming etc.

    Ignore and move on. Anyway, disturbance isn't a "nuisance" unless it's ongoing. A one-off is a simple "oops, sorry" followed by a retreat to one's castle and the opening of a bottle of the poison of one's choice ;)
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    In this case you should be taking the moral high ground not involving yourself in a tit for tat noise war with them because it could end up with you losing your house, they have a young child & the advantage over you right now.


    Get real, the OP drilled one hole through his wall.:rolleyes:
  • Well think about this then, they hammer & bang about & you say nothing to them, but you do the same thing & they complain to the council & get you evicted. Yes it could & has happened on more than one occasion.

    In this case you should be taking the moral high ground not involving yourself in a tit for tat noise war with them because it could end up with you losing your house, they have a young child & the advantage over you right now.

    Are you saying that as I am the legal owner of this house 100% freehold in my name, that I can lose this house beaucse of them - sorry if that is the case the law is an a**

    She rents from the landlord on leasehold bases 50/50 scheme with the other 50% being in her name on the mortgage.

    However the council has said to me the second time the EHO sent a letter was that some people fall in the noise sentive bracket - and they seem to think she is.

    When I was young, my mum and dad did their chores when we were asleep in the early evenings/night - didn't bother us one bit... sometimes listening to something can make you go to sleep,,,
  • celyn90
    celyn90 Posts: 3,249 Forumite
    My parents have this problem too with a neighbour who is a bit strange. They own their house too, but he is after getting rid of all of the three familys near him so he can buy the land and sell it on (a developer has already offered a fortune for the four plots). They got a noise notice from the council for a barking dog last month - and they don't even have a dog. My mum phoned the council to inform them of this; who said they had to investigate - and if another complaint was made they would install noise monitors, which would of course show nothing, so they have nothing to worry about. Likewise, if they went down this route with you, monitors would be installed, nothing would happen because you are quiet!

    tbh I don't think that drilling a single hole at that time is unreasonable at all. I would have tried to do it before 6pm or waited until the weekend, but I would never dream of harassing my neighbours if they chose to do what you did. In my last house we covered the backs of the furniture (bookcases) up against the party wall with carpet underlay to deaden any noise (not that we made a great deal) and made sure no audio equipment was against the party wall out of courtesy. Ithink it is always worth doing these minor things so if there is a problem you can say "but I'm bieng as quite as I can - I've even done all these extra things" It sounds to me like she just wants someone to rant to and is waiting for any excuse. I would do as other posters have suggested (even if you hate them!) just pop round and tell them that you have to do X job, it will take x time, if they have a suggestion for a time, then good - if they say never then do it anyway and be prepared for the flak. That way, if it comes to the crunch, you can say you have been reasonable and considerate at all times.

    If her behaviour is threatening - which to be honest I would consider cursing at you and hammering on the gate to be - I would keep a record of this too. hope it all works out for you, cel x
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  • Anyway, disturbance isn't a "nuisance" unless it's ongoing. A one-off is a simple "oops, sorry" followed by a retreat to one's castle and the opening of a bottle of the poison of one's choice ;)

    Which we did, brother was happy that he can now did digital tv after the "nusinace" lol - got to please my lodger you see.
  • zebidee1
    zebidee1 Posts: 991 Forumite
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    Come on people, this was a " one off ", not an every evening thing.

    So baby got woke up, tough, I bet it soon went back to sleep.

    I wasn't looking at this as just a one off, I was thinking about the future work that's getting done too.

    If the neighbour wasn't happy about one hole being drilled....what's it going to be like when the other stuff gets started? I daresay the OP could do without the added stress of a narky neighbour.

    As for the baby, everyone's kids are different with different routines and needs. You cant judge. :confused:
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