We are being evicted, some advice please...... the date has arrived......

dopester

I didn't post to deliberately upset or anger anyone - maybe just a little dig to test BM's fighting spirit... but she responded like a trooper.

ampersand wrote: »

I find your example of the 'wealthy family' ludicrous - who else on here has forgotten about that convenient lump of land they own but had forgotten all about? - and injudicious, given the complaints of nearby residents and the implied tone of acceptance of cutting the law fine.

I've seen land/woodland/plots at auction (from all parts of the country), go for between £500 and £6000 at auction... and some look ideal for trailer home set-up - although some would equally attract issues with neighbours/planning.

Or try and acquire long-term rental of some land from a farmer at less than £10 a night. Haggle? Approach more farmers? I know a farmer round our way accepted £1200 for a year rental (£100 paid monthly.. which is what... £3 to £4 per night) for such an agreement - giving a good plot in a wealthy village, secluded, sheltered, clean as on a paved area, and just a minute of the main road - convenient for the people who needed it as they had close family/employment in the village. With a cosy trailer... a few items like bottled gas... that is cheap living. Has to be better than out on the streets.

I'm not banging on about land/trailer... as perhaps hostel - but definitely proper housing would be far more suitable - (but always more expensive bills-wise) - just trying to reckon a bit of positivity in all matters doesn't go amiss... if you don't succeed the first time....

Anyway I wish you well BM.

Thanks for the full quote of A. Philip Randolph. Interesting. I fully agree with you that we should all be capable of empathy, care of others.... the quotation was more to focus on the fact there are people/companies/banks who will show you no mercy if you become vulnerable - so more of a a warning to protect yourself.

Careful_with_that_Axe

dopester wrote: »

I didn't post to deliberately upset or anger anyone - maybe just a little dig to test BM's fighting spirit... but she responded like a trooper.
Anyway I wish you well BM.

I'm glad I read the last sentence, because I fail to see how the first para is anything but provocative.

Fingers, legs and everything possible crossed for some positive news for you bm.
I've done Step classes, so have a degree in plaiting my legs although I've yet to achieve it without falling over and how can I possible go for a pee?

vivatifosi

Hi blue,

I am glad you are taking Ryan with you to the meeting. I found studying that it is one thing to theorise about something, but quite another to experience that reality first hand. Thus the council may have all the texts and rules on what is what, but until they can see how your life and circumstances revolve around Ryan's needs they may not be as inclined to go that extra mile for you or realise the gravity of your circumstances.

Forgive me for wading in with my questions as I've not been in the same situation but I would want to know:

1. Have I received all the "points" that I am entitled to? Having seen my circumstances can you suggest anything else that I need to act on?
2. To council officer: If you were me, and trying to think laterally, what else would you do to improve my housing circumstances that perhaps I haven't thought of?
3. How close to the top of the list am I?
4. Where will I go next? (eg what hostel facilities etc are available)...
5. How does the system work? (eg do I have to take my first choice, etc)... Perhaps: Do you have a set of guidelines that I can take away and read?
6. Given my special circumstances can I approach housing associations, and if so will you write me an introductory letter? (maybe, providing this doesn't put you at a disadvantage with the council).

Can't think of anything else at the moment, will drop a line later if I have a brainwave (there's a first time for everything)..

ampersand

dopester wrote: »

At least the i.d. is well-chosen.
I didn't post to deliberately upset or anger anyone - maybe just a little dig to test BM's fighting spirit... but she responded like a trooper. - should be 'trouper'. This error apart, accurate reading would have made your judgment unnecessary. I doubt bm either needed, or appreciated, 'a little dig' to test her mettle. Why do you imagine your approval is so prized? Who, besides yourself, bestowed this rôle upon you? Just don't do it to anyone on these threads or in 'real' life.

I've seen land/woodland/plots at auction (from all parts of the country), go for between £500 and £6000 at auction... and some look ideal for trailer home set-up - although some would equally attract issues with neighbours/planning - we've all seen these ESTIMATES,designed to suck in the gullible. How many auctions have you attended? It's a world I know well. Do you know what a 'come in spinner' est. is? These plots are rarely accessible for any form of residence. No-one bids without doing their homework, but you write like the dream patsy for any snake-oil vendor. You display no knowledge of area-specific local planning law and the legal and personal precarity you propose. To follow your course would plunge anyone into a maze of confrontation and litigation - irresponsible behaviour for bm, as mother and contributing breadwinner.
Or try and acquire long-term rental of some land from a farmer at less than £10 a night. Haggle? Approach more farmers? I know a farmer round our way accepted £1200 for a year rental (£100 paid monthly.. which is what... £3 to £4 per night) for such an agreement - giving a good plot in a wealthy village, secluded, sheltered, clean as on a paved area, and just a minute of the main road - convenient for the people who needed it as they had close family/employment in the village. With a cosy trailer... a few items like bottled gas... that is cheap living. Has to be better than out on the streets.
Your example again comes from cloud-cuckoo land and the minefield of local statute, apart from totally ignoring bm's family circumstances. No two situations can be compared unless they stand like for like in time and context.

I'm not banging on about land/trailer... as perhaps hostel - but definitely proper housing would be far more suitable - (but always more expensive bills-wise) - just trying to reckon a bit of positivity in all matters doesn't go amiss... if you don't succeed the first time.... so don't make negative, misleading, ill-informed, sloppy pronouncements.
Anyway I wish you well BM. - just as well.

Thanks for the full quote of A. Philip Randolph. Interesting. I fully agree with you that we should all be capable of empathy, care of others.... the quotation was more to focus on the fact there are people/companies/banks who will show you no mercy if you become vulnerable - so more of a a warning to protect yourself.

- Randolph was extraordinary, dogged, gracious, courageous, patient, intelligent, even daring to be optimistic against all odds(read about him), qualities bm has shown throughout. She needs no pointers from shallow thinkers, skim readers and erroneous or misapplied quotes.

wol2 writes truly:
Stay strong honey. We are here even though we may not always post. Pm/email me with your phone number if you want a chat ...or to vent...None of us is as strong as we may wish to portray to others.....but if necessary (and it sometimes is) ...you need to be be reassured that there are others you can talk to who don't give a tinkers cuss whether you are stong or if you get through a box of kleenex together...and i am one of them.
She and vitatifosi are the stuff of champions(I speak from personal observation).
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I won't answer further dopester posts; I've done these two in the hope of redeeming something well-meant from him/her.
bm - I'll be thinking of you on Thursday. v's list is very sound, excellent.

sasp

Good luck BM you know where I am chick if you need to chat (PM only if you get chance).

You have many friends on here (I'm lucky to be one of them) if you need a strong shoulder or distraction.
Keep yourself well and take comfort from the fact that things WILL be sorted for you and your gang, and very soon you will look back with relief.

In the meantime plenty of vitamins and rest

Love Shar xx;)


P.s Hi Ampersands hope you are well.

MummyHol

dopester wrote: »

I didn't post to deliberately upset or anger anyone - maybe just a little dig to test BM's fighting spirit...

BM doesn't need any more testing, she's proved herself quite enough (not that she needed to)

ampersand- couldn't agree with you more

BlueMonkey- don't forget to take a copies of all the emails the MP forwarded to you from the council- especially the one that stated that the hostel would not be suitable for your family situation. It might also be worth asking them what there policy is on how quickly they'll rehouse you if you do go into a hostel (eg here they aim to have you out of the hostel within 12 weeks) and where you go if there aren't any suitable 3 beds (if they offer 2nd stage emergency accomodation). If we don't speak again before then good luck on thursday & let us all know what their views on moving into a caravan are?

Hol xx

poorbabe

Hi Ampersand :j

Remind me NEVER to upset you. I felt the whiplash from here!!!

tilly's_mum

Hi BM

Just wanted to say Good Luck and I think it good to take the children with you - makes it more real to them than names on a piece of paper. I agree with MummyHol take everything like the emails with you - with any luck you won't need them and they will offer you something but best to be prepared.

Good Luck

Cheryl

ampersand

wol2 writes truly:
Stay strong honey. We are here even though we may not always post. Pm/email me with your phone number if you want a chat ...or to vent...None of us is as strong as we may wish to portray to others.....but if necessary (and it sometimes is) ...you need to be be reassured that there are others you can talk to who don't give a tinkers cuss whether you are stong or if you get through a box of kleenex together...and i am one of them.
She and vitatifosi are the stuff of champions(I speak from personal observation).
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Well now, if quoting self isn't egocentric I don't know what is, but you may add poorbabeto my Personally Known Champions' Roll of Honour.

rach29

BM I have just spent the whole afternoon reading your thread and although I have no practical advice to offer I just want to let you know that I think you are a very special, strong & courageous person. I know I would never have coped as well as you in the same situation.

I'll be thinking of you on Thursday & will keep checking this thread to see how you are doing. I believe in the power of positive thinking & I'll be sending positive thoughts for you, as I'm sure will all of your friends on this thread.


Best Wishes