Birth certificate dated over a year after i was born?

miserly_mum

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

After my husband's parents died we went to get a long style copy of his birth certififcate as he only had the short version.His father had had it changed when my husband was nearly 28,almost 24 years earlier.We asked why this was allowed to had happen(as my husband was an adult at the time) and was told a father can change an entry whenever he wants.We were also told after repeated requests that this was the only version of the birth registration available to view.As you can imagine this has left my husband very upset and confused,so anyone with any ideas would be appreciated.Thanks.

I know thats not the case nowaday as when we registered my youngest son the Registrar told us to make sure everything was spelled right ( she thought his name was unusual) as it couldn't be changed at a later date.

I think a fathers name can be added up until the child is 1 year old but I don't think anything else can be changed?

Emuchops

Hello Haylibo-its oddly comforting to know of others in similar situation but that doesnt help you. I have never used any other agencies to help. To be honest its a very recent decision to actually try and find out more about who my father is/was, as i was always of the opinion that he was not worth bothering with, as I would not have left a houseplant in the care of my mother, let alone a child. However as I get older im finding it increasingly difficult not knowing more about my heritage (for some reason).
I know that being approached by another agency on my behalf would not make any difference to my mother, and would probably make her even more determined not to pass on any true info. as she would realise that she had something I wanted.
If you have a good idea of his name and rough location could you not find out more info with that?

MissSunshine

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

After my husband's parents died we went to get a long style copy of his birth certififcate as he only had the short version.His father had had it changed when my husband was nearly 28,almost 24 years earlier.We asked why this was allowed to had happen(as my husband was an adult at the time) and was told a father can change an entry whenever he wants.We were also told after repeated requests that this was the only version of the birth registration available to view.As you can imagine this has left my husband very upset and confused,so anyone with any ideas would be appreciated.Thanks.

How long ago was this?
Seven years ago a friend was proven by DNA not to be the father of his 'daughter'. He applied to the general registrar to have his details removed from the birth registration entry and birth certificate , but was told they could only write an amendment at the side.

Hope your birth certificate gives your father's name OP.

wickedwitch_2

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

After my husband's parents died we went to get a long style copy of his birth certififcate as he only had the short version.His father had had it changed when my husband was nearly 28,almost 24 years earlier.We asked why this was allowed to had happen(as my husband was an adult at the time) and was told a father can change an entry whenever he wants.We were also told after repeated requests that this was the only version of the birth registration available to view.As you can imagine this has left my husband very upset and confused,so anyone with any ideas would be appreciated.Thanks.

It might be worth applying for a copy of the original certificate from the General Registry Office rather than the local register office - unless that is what you've already done of course. I can check the birth index for you if you would like, so you can apply for a copy of his birth certificate from there.
As far as I'm aware the only birth certificates where the original is 'restricted' following amendment are those involving adoption - which isn't something that would happen when the child was nearly 30.

It's worth a try although I'm no expert - just a mad genealogist.

Send me a PM if you want me to do a look up. Happy to help.

miserly_mum

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Please don't take this the wrong way but perhaps she doesn't know who your father was. The 60s were a fairly free and easy time sexually!

Hi, i'm adopted and traced my birth mother when I was 32.

She admitted she really didn't know who my Dad was or my older brothers father either. In my case she narrowed it down to "some sailors":rotfl: (She loved a man in uniform)
She was not someone i'd have chosen to spend time if I had met her in any other walk of life and it a very true saying "you can pick your friends but not your relatives"

On a serious note though......why are you so eager to find your Dad? If you feel that he'll in some way change or enhance your life you might be in for a disappointment.

Even if you do find him what makes you think there will be any father/daughter bond there?

duchy

Mrs Mouse
This may sound a bit nuts but is it possible that your husband's parents didn't marry until then and that was the reason for the change (as obviously it can't be adoption as your husband was an adult). I had no idea for nearly 40 years that my parents had married much later than everyone assumed due to religious difficulties. They just let everyone assume they had married-including close family. When it came out my mother said they had left it so long that it was really hard to bring the subject up-which I sort of understand.

Emuchops

Hello Miserly Mum-i dont want to find him-ie meet him or contact him in any way-i just want to find out some information about him. I don't envisage a reunion....in fact i think that would be a bad idea. He's possibly dead now anyway as my mother was 27 when she had me and she always hinted that he was considerably older(but that may have been another red herring).

miserly_mum

If you don't want to meet him then I honestly don't see what good a name on a piece of paper will be to you.

The reason your Mum is so cagey about giving you his name might simply be that he was married. These things happen and it could be embarrassing at her age to admit to an adult daughter that she had an affair with a married man.

Not saying this is the case but if he was older and wasn't in your life growing up its a possibility?

As for the birth certificate, as other posters have said , what you have described is a short version which doesn't give parental details.

If you get a long copy it will have your Mums name on it and your Dads if he signed the forms to have his name added at the time. Even now unless you are married the father still has to give "consent" for his name to be on the birth certificate

Be prepared to find the part for name of father to be blank or say unknown. Unknown doesn't mean your Mum didn't know who he was, just that it is unknown to the registrar at the time your birth was registered

Emuchops

M-M-anything is indeed a possibility with my mother, and I have pondered the circumstances of my conception many times, and considered all scenarios. With reference to your comment " i honestly don't see what good a name on a piece of paper will be to you"...thank you for your input.

Loretta

Emuchops wrote: »

M-M-anything is indeed a possibility with my mother, and I have pondered the circumstances of my conception many times, and considered all scenarios. With reference to your comment " i honestly don't see what good a name on a piece of paper will be to you"...thank you for your input.

I was adopted and found my family 10 years ago, from about 12 words on my adoption file I found them in about 20 minutes in another country.

I really had no interest in finding them, I don't know why as I usually want to know everythingabout everything, until my adopted mother died, and my sister said she would send me my papers. I knew quite a lot already and could have had these papers at anytime. Suddenly I HAD to know. I wish I had done it sooner, not because there was anything wrong with my life but unless you have been adopted or like the OP there is a bit of the jigsaw missing you have no idea what it feels like. I had the name of my birth mother for many years and I was happy with that (name on a piece of paper) until suddenly I needed to know it all and it became so important and as I said I was very luckythat it all happened so fast and worked out so well.

Surely it is a natural right a human right to know who you are and if you need to know you need to know, I cannot explain but that is the way it is.

if I had not traced my birth family I know I would be incomplete in some way, even if I had not felt incomplete before I found them. We can all think we are very sophisticated but natural human instinct is still in there somewhere.

My lovely Dad had died when I was 16 and in some way I would have felt disloyal to him if I had done something earlier, I still have no interest in finding my birth father as he is not important to me, I had a lovely Dad and don't want or need another one. My adopted mother and myself did not work out terribly well and I suppose you look for the 'missing' bit.

I had guessed the story and I had guessed right, I was born in 1949 and after I was born the father (I call him the sperm doner, it takes more than that to be a real father) was not around and in those days things were very different and this would have been a total disaster. I really dislike that sort of man, irresponsible and leaving someone in the lurch like that when it was even worse than doing it now so I have no interest in him and I can relate very much to my mother's situation and I know that there was no alternative for her.

Until you are in this situation you cannot have any understanding at all.

Suddenly I HAD to know.

Keep asking, there is no such thng as a secret someone always knows
something and people do love to talk, you only need a little information to get going