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Birth certificate dated over a year after i was born?

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  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,605 Forumite
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    as quoted above you can go to

    http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/births/

    and with the information i gave you about the birth district/vol/page you can order the original details for £7

    for obvious reasons i won't reproduce that information in the thread, but you were born when you think in 1967 and not when the later certificate states

    ps...I have access to

    www.thegenealogist.co.uk

    in case anyone else is wondering
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  • clairec79
    clairec79 Posts: 2,512 Forumite
    A short birth certificate doesn't have any parents details on it.

    My husband was adopted by his step father and as such has a replacement birth certificate showing his mother and step father as his parents, there is a code on it to link it back to his original birth certificate - if yours has this code you should be able to get hod of the original.

    I would imagine if she declared that he was not the father you could get it taken off, but she may well have been fined over making a false statement in the first place
  • Loretta
    Loretta Posts: 1,101 Forumite
    Emuchops wrote: »
    thanks to all for your help. Ive had another look at BC-the registrar has signed and dated it it exactly 1 year and 1 week after my dob. Its got just my details on it-nothing stating mothers details either-isnt that a bit odd? or perhaps thats how they did it 40 years ago inWales.
    Unfortunately its impossible to get any details from my mother and we are now estranged.

    There are 2 sorts of birth certificate, a short one and a long one. The short one is cheaper and says everything that is needed for passports and things like that. You seem to have a short one which is not at all unusual, maybe she has the original long one or maybe she lost it and replaced it with a short one and chose the cheaper option.

    If you get a copy of the original long one, you just send of for it, it is not unusual to do that the extra information will be mother's name and address at the time of your birth, where you were born and who registered the birth, this would probably be your mother or grandmother someone like that.

    If your parents were not married and your mother will not dicuss anything i expect, as was extremely common in those days, your father had gone, in those days there was either a 'shot gun marriage' you married because there was a baby on the way or you were 'abandoned' none of this living together etc if your parents were not married when the birth was registered the father had to be there to give his details if he was not there the space for his details were left blank

    There is nothing unusual in anything you have said. The best way to find things out, things are never really a secret, someone always knows and people do like to talk, ask your mother, any relations, any friends of your mother. If you live in the same area, neighbours etc someone always know things and times have changed someone will probably tell you something. You only need a little information to get you going

    Good luck
    Loretta
  • Emuchops
    Emuchops Posts: 799 Forumite
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    Thanks to everyone for your posts. I have applied for a copy of BC online this morning. I think it will not show my fathers name but its worth a try. I have scant details of what may be his name but my mother was very secretive and quite often changed what little info she gave me, so what i think i know may be wrong anyway.
    If theres no fathers name on BC does anyone know how i might get any further? I have spoken to what few relatives i have-my mother was just as secretive with themthey never met him and she never spoke to them about him. Getting any more information from my mother is not an option.
  • Loretta
    Loretta Posts: 1,101 Forumite
    Emuchops wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone for your posts. I have applied for a copy of BC online this morning. I think it will not show my fathers name but its worth a try. I have scant details of what may be his name but my mother was very secretive and quite often changed what little info she gave me, so what i think i know may be wrong anyway.
    If theres no fathers name on BC does anyone know how i might get any further? I have spoken to what few relatives i have-my mother was just as secretive with themthey never met him and she never spoke to them about him. Getting any more information from my mother is not an option.

    Keep asking, someone will definitely know something, good luck
    Loretta
  • hardpressed
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    If your father's name is not on you birth certificate and, as you say your mum is secretive if there is a name it may be false, if she won't tell you then sadly there is no way of finding out. A relative or friend might give you a name but there is no way of proving it.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Please don't take this the wrong way but perhaps she doesn't know who your father was. The 60s were a fairly free and easy time sexually!
  • Emuchops
    Emuchops Posts: 799 Forumite
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    Too true Oldernotwiser!!I shall wait to see what, if any, info Bc gives me.I think i can expect it end of Jan according to website.Thanks again everyone.
  • haylibo
    haylibo Posts: 1,004 Forumite
    Hi Emuchops

    I'm in a similar-ish situation without the change in date on BC. Have no concrete idea of who my dad is/was and am estranged from my mother (I'm the E and D, she's the strange lol). I would love to find out about my dad but not only do I not speak to my mother, I have no contact with any family at all. To complicate matters she lives near to my MandFIL and sometimes bothers them, especially when she's had a drink or two.
    There is a good chance that, should I approach her about it, she would never give me an honest answer about my dad or that she would use it as a means of making a drama, spinning things out and telling lies. I wondered whether I could get a professional agency involved because she may respond better to an outsider and also feel the need to behave differently to a professional but I wouldn't know who to get (it's not a typical adoption situation) and I would worry about her reaction, it would put my in-laws in the firing line and my FIL has alzheimers with MIL being his carer.

    Sorry to hi-jack a thread but wondered whether anyone has any experience of such a thing. Have you (emuchops) used any outside party? I have an idea of a name and the area he lived in but don't know where to go to find anything else as everyone, as you pointed out, wants money before you can even find out whether it's a service worth paying for.
    Best wishes
    Hayles
  • After my husband's parents died we went to get a long style copy of his birth certififcate as he only had the short version.His father had had it changed when my husband was nearly 28,almost 24 years earlier.We asked why this was allowed to had happen(as my husband was an adult at the time) and was told a father can change an entry whenever he wants.We were also told after repeated requests that this was the only version of the birth registration available to view.As you can imagine this has left my husband very upset and confused,so anyone with any ideas would be appreciated.Thanks.
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