Add a downstairs WC if possible.

tacpot12

How about the idea of extending the larder into the kitchen, and converting the enlarged larder into a toilet? You seem to have 400mm of space in front of the larder that you could extend into. Would this create enough space with the required headroom? 

Emmia

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Boohoo

tacpot12 said:

How about the idea of extending the larder into the kitchen, and converting the enlarged larder into a toilet? You seem to have 400mm of space in front of the larder that you could extend into. Would this create enough space with the required headroom? 

Thanks for your reply.

I know the drawing is not great.

There is a back door after the 400mm  which is next to the sink.

Not sure if that would work as it would need a door ot the toilet open out .

There is a law that WC's have to have a sink if they are in a kitchen or no sink if the WC is not opening into a kitchen.

We were thinking of bricking up the door and put it in there or from the back door next to sink partition wall all the way to the kitchen/dining wall so the WC door will be in the hallway.

If that was an option they could take down the brick wall and use what's left of the kitchen to make a kitchen/diner.

Assuming that the wall is not load bearing, next door to him took his down a few years ago and the ceiling is still up 

Boohoo

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

NO NO and NO he says he doesn't want one so that's the the end of that subject.

He lives in his own home and his son who moved in with him when the son had a stroke.

Bedroom upstairs.

Emmia

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

NO NO and NO he says he doesn't want one so that's the the end of that subject.

He lives in his own home and his son who moved in with him when the son had a stroke.

Bedroom upstairs.

If the budget is £12k from him, how much are you willing to spend on top of this  to rearrange your ground floor to accommodate the changes needed?

tacpot12

If it helps, the small space I converted to a toilet was made possible by using a Geberit cistern that was only 80mm thick. This meant it could be hidden inside a stud wall. I also found a small, but usable handbasin; this one: RAK Ceramics Compact 45cm Slimline Basin CO2401AWHA | Trading Depot
It only sticks out from the wall by 215mm. 

Boohoo

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

NO NO and NO he says he doesn't want one so that's the the end of that subject.

He lives in his own home and his son who moved in with him when the son had a stroke.

Bedroom upstairs.

If the budget is £12k from him, how much are you willing to spend on top of this  to rearrange your ground floor to accommodate the changes needed?

Thanks for replying.

Maybe you have misread my posts or I am not clear enough in my posts 

I will not be spending any money on rearranging my ground floor to accommodate him as he lives in his own house that he owns and would like to have downstairs WC in his home.

I live in mine and my partner's house so I hope that clears things up for you.

Emmia

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

NO NO and NO he says he doesn't want one so that's the the end of that subject.

He lives in his own home and his son who moved in with him when the son had a stroke.

Bedroom upstairs.

If the budget is £12k from him, how much are you willing to spend on top of this  to rearrange your ground floor to accommodate the changes needed?

Thanks for replying.

Maybe you have misread my posts or I am not clear enough in my posts 

I will not be spending any money on rearranging my ground floor to accommodate him as he lives in his own house that he owns and would like to have downstairs WC in his home.

I live in mine and my partner's house so I hope that clears things up for you.

It does but I don't think you can remodel your downstairs as you're having suggested on £12k. 

Moving kitchens, living areas, installing a new toilet or shower room etc. is going to be more expensive than £12k. But ultimately all of this is up to you - your house etc. 

For £12k a stairlift is realistic - but your FIL won't consider it, even though he'd only use it when visiting.

Boohoo

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

Emmia said:

Boohoo said:

Albermarle said:

but he doesn't have 10's of thousands for that idea.

Even these other options will not be that cheap. Do you/him have a budget in mind?
Maybe when he sees the potential cost ( and hassle), then a stairlift might start to look a more attractive option.

He has about £12000 only because he cashed in an ISA that matured last month.

Stair lift is a definite NO.

Why is the stairlift a "no" ?

Ultimately it might be the only practical solution given the funds available - is he living with you? And if so where is his bedroom?

NO NO and NO he says he doesn't want one so that's the the end of that subject.

He lives in his own home and his son who moved in with him when the son had a stroke.

Bedroom upstairs.

If the budget is £12k from him, how much are you willing to spend on top of this  to rearrange your ground floor to accommodate the changes needed?

Thanks for replying.

Maybe you have misread my posts or I am not clear enough in my posts 

I will not be spending any money on rearranging my ground floor to accommodate him as he lives in his own house that he owns and would like to have downstairs WC in his home.

I live in mine and my partner's house so I hope that clears things up for you.

It does but I don't think you can remodel your downstairs as you're having suggested on £12k. 

Moving kitchens, living areas, installing a new toilet or shower room etc. is going to be more expensive than £12k. But ultimately all of this is up to you - your house etc. 

For £12k a stairlift is realistic - but your FIL won't consider it, even though he'd only use it when visiting.

Not sure why you keep mentioning "you" and "your" as it  should be "he" and "his" as in his house and not my house.

As I have stated before he doesn't want a stair lift in his home and he definitely won't want one installed in my home which he doesn't live in when he visits.

Thank you for all your input and advice by the way 

mlz1413

Toilet with sink in the top.

Also look at toilets that have a built in cabinet with sink.


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