The holy grail of university education.

poet123

No one suggested being at the beck and call of others,just being there when needed...that is different. Whether you beleive in karma or not with your attitude there WILL come a time when you may wish you had instilled different values into your kids. It will be too late then,for you and for the society they live in,as we all suffer for the few who have no familial loyalty as the state usually has to pick up the shortfall.

alwaysskint96

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I'm glad my mum and dad aren't as stingy as Hapless. I've never [SIZE=-1]asked for their assistance, but always knew they'd be there to help me out if I needed it.[/SIZE]

What's gonna happen when you're old and infirm.. you need a lift to the doctors or want to go on holiday but can't on your own... will your 'independent' children help you out? Will they expect you to get by on your own because 'you will if you want it enough' ?

What goes around, comes around... frankly I admire families that stick together, help one another out when they need it. They provide a great support network that must be very comforting to be part of

Umm well my Mum gave my brother EVERYTHING she could. She helped him fincially on regualr occasions, helped him when buying his house and also helped both finacially and practiclly when organising his wedding. She looks after his son while my bro and SIL work ( for free) yet if she so much asks for a lift to the shops/hospital etc he is too busy/tired etc My Mum has now retired and on pension credit- but he doesnt even cough up towards the food his son eats there

absolutebounder

Running_Horse wrote: »

http://www.businessballs.com/demographicsclassifications.htm

Oh I appear to be classless Why doesnt that surprise me?
SP is inthe same boat but different reason.
Mine was no category for self employed entertainer:D

His was that there is no category marked @rsehole:rolleyes:

LandyAndy

Running_Horse wrote: »

http://www.businessballs.com/demographicsclassifications.htm

Interesting. According to this I, and Mrs LA, are social grade A:beer: and I do percieve myself as 'middle class'.

My father is grade A and my mother grade C1.

My paternal grandparents were C2 and D as were my maternal ones.

My father made this 'leap' in class by being clever and going to university, the first in his family. I have done no more than piggy back on his efforts.

I knew my grandparents well, they died in their nineties, and I fully recognise my 'working class' backround and am proud of it.

I will be encouraging my children to go to university because I believe the academic education offered is a tiny part of what university is about. It is, however, a massive catalyst to change in social attitude.

studentphil

semi skilled workers- what exactly is a semi- skill?

LandyAndy

studentphil wrote: »

semi skilled workers- what exactly is a semi- skill?

Being a librarian with no actual qualifications in librarianship?

studentphil

LandyAndy wrote: »

Being a librarian with no actual qualifications in librarianship?

Maybe but even senior manager librarians don't have a qualifications, so how can they be semi- skilled?

Firefly

Is being a Librarian a skill?

studentphil

Firefly wrote: »

Is being a Librarian a skill?

I suppose it is like clerk for information, so it has some skill to it.

TITEASCRAMP

studentphil wrote: »

Maybe but even senior manager librarians don't have a qualifications, so how can they be semi- skilled?

its a loads of bullocks phil. Dont worry im a the lowest end. Cos i'm a house wife. But yet my dh must be doing okay if he can afford keep his family.
Dont worry what class you are, no one who matters phil cares.