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Another Person Migrating From ESA IR To U/C Questions

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  • KxMx
    KxMx Posts: 11,106 Forumite
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    The payment statements are often available 1-2 days before the official date.
    Don't worry if it isn't though. 
  • Starbright2
    Starbright2 Posts: 82 Forumite
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    Thanks I will keep checking  :)
  • Robbie64
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    Starbright2, you might get your statement tomorrow. I claimed UC on 21 May (one day before yourself), and therefore my first assessment period is 21 May to 20 June. Although my UC account had said that my statement would be available from 23 June, it was available to view this morning. Everything was present and correct (LCWRA was included, Transitional Protection was included and the TP is exactly the amount I calculated it would be).
    The only thing I'm yet to get is a letter from ESA to inform me that my contribution based ESA is to be converted to new style ESA and I need to agree commitments.
  • Starbright2
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    I am so very pleased yours has shown in your account & that it's all correct YAY!

    It gives me hope that mine might be too. I haven't looked today because I thought no one will work Saturday or Sunday but it's not done by humans it's done by computers. I've just checked mine today but as you say it could be tomorrow.

    Thanks so very much for letting me know & I am truly happy yours has come out right  :)
  • Robbie64
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    ^
    Today will be the last day of your assessment period so tomorrow (22/06/25) will be the earliest your statement will appear. It looks like production of the statement is automated so therefore it can appear on a Saturday or Sunday if either falls just after your AP ends.
  • Starbright2
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    @Robbie64 thanks that all makes sense. I'm nervous/excited  :)

    If it's right it will be a relief to get straight again 

  • Starbright2
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    Yes mines in but I don't have anything to say because you're in the support group you get more.

    It says

    Standard allowance
    Housing
    Transitional Protection

    I didn't realise it would list all your savings down to the last penny so don't feel comfortable in putting the statement on here.

    They have this time taken off the £80.51 that they paid me for rent that they shouldn't have. 

    @Newcad as your the person I've known longest would you mind if I sent you the screen shot of my statement to work out if it's correct please?




  • Starbright2
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    Actually @Newcad I don't need to send it to you after all

    So anyone can answer as well as Newcad (sorry I'm always confusing myself)

    What they paid me

    The standard rate is right
    The rent is right
    I don't know if the TE is right, is the TE supposed to cover the disability premiums? if it is I used to get £81.50 a week x52 = £4238 divided by 12 =£353.16. But they have paid me £237.15 

    The deductions are right 

    £609.05 for the ESA they pay me
    £80.51 because they paid me too much housing benefit one off deduction 
    And some money taken off because of savings they have done an explanation which is right

    So I just need help with the TE and I don't have the health element.

    Thanks  :)



  • KxMx
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    Transitional Protection is added if your total UC award is lower than legacy benefits. It's not meant as a £ for £ SDP replacement.

    UC LCWRA +Standard Allowance pays more than ESA SG + EDP. So you have to factor that in when looking at the amount of TP you should get from the remaining ESA (SDP). 

    The figures are ESA SG + EDP = £700.92. 
    UC Standard Allowance & LCWRA =£823.41. 

    First you need to add a Journal note (using the payment option) stating you are missing the LCWRA element (from the amount of your ESA deduction I infer you migrated from the Support Group).

    Then once that's sorted you can deal with the Transitional Protection if you feel it is incorrect. 
  • Yamor
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    That sounds about right.

    On ESA you were getting (excluding housing, and deductions for capital):

    Personal allowance: £92.05
    Support component: £48.50
    Enhanced disability: £21.20
    SDP: £82.90
    Total: £244.65
    Monthly equivalent: £1,060.15

    On UC you are entitled to (excluding housing, and deductions for capital and the HB overpayment):

    Standard allowance: £400.14
    LCWRA: £423.27
    Total: £823.41

    Difference: £1,060.15 - £823.41 = £236.74

    So that is a grand total of £0.41 different to what they've given you. And even that would be slightly lower when you take the capital into account, because UC deduct £0.02/month more for every £250 over £6k as compared to ESA.
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