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  • Gr1pr
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    edited 4 May at 10:15AM
    1xvp1 said:
    Gr1pr said:
    You should complain about it to the CNBC , same as all the other complaints 

    But you should be asking the actual court itself to transfer it,  not the CNBC  ( so St Helens civil court   )
    I followed the advice in this thread. 

    I'll write something up for the St Helens court, thanks.
    And that advice from ChirpyChicken and also from troublemaker22 was to write or send an  email St Helens civil court   ( not the CNBC  !  )  But you said that you emailed the CNBC,  with no reply 

    By all means complain by email to the CNBC in Northampton about the error ,  but to get it transferred to a civil county court near you, you write to St Helens, Merseyside, court,  not the CNBC 

    So the way I understood it, you emailed the wrong place in the wrong town or city , hence my reply 
  • Johnersh
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    This isn't complicated. Complete the allocation questionnaire and complete box F1 -  submit that the court should be changed on the basis that the appropriate court is the local court of the unrepresented defendant not that of the claimant's solicitors. Furthermore, the witnesses reside proximate to X county court.

    Nice that the claimant seeks to argue the counterclaim is inappropriately drafted and that the £300 unspecified. I imagine without even looking much the same criticism can be levelled against the claimant PPC.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 May at 11:59AM
    Johnersh said:
    This isn't complicated. Complete the allocation questionnaire and complete box F1 -  submit that the court should be changed on the basis that the appropriate court is the local court of the unrepresented defendant not that of the claimant's solicitors. Furthermore, the witnesses reside proximate to X county court.

    Nice that the claimant seeks to argue the counterclaim is inappropriately drafted and that the £300 unspecified. I imagine without even looking much the same criticism can be levelled against the claimant PPC.
    Yep just cover this in the N180 AND mention 'St Helens is the wrong court' in the covering email to St Helens and the Solicitors. This is a weird one because I don't even think Gladstones are anywhere near St Helens either?!

    Maybe the parking firm is?

    EDIT: no, UKCPM are based in Worthing!
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  • 1xvp1
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    Gr1pr said:
    You should complain about it to the CNBC , same as all the other complaints 

    But you should be asking the actual court itself to transfer it,  not the CNBC  ( so St Helens civil court   )
    I apologise for the confusion. However, I correctly sent the email to St Helens on 13 April asking to move the court to my local one.


  • 1xvp1
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    Johnersh said:
    This isn't complicated. Complete the allocation questionnaire and complete box F1 -  submit that the court should be changed on the basis that the appropriate court is the local court of the unrepresented defendant not that of the claimant's solicitors. Furthermore, the witnesses reside proximate to X county court.

    Nice that the claimant seeks to argue the counterclaim is inappropriately drafted and that the £300 unspecified. I imagine without even looking much the same criticism can be levelled against the claimant PPC.
    Yep just cover this in the N180 AND mention 'St Helens is the wrong court' in the covering email to St Helens and the Solicitors. This is a weird one because I don't even think Gladstones are anywhere near St Helens either?!

    Maybe the parking firm is?

    EDIT: no, UKCPM are based in Worthing!
    I'm sorry but is this N180 form an online one? I did not get any forms through mail. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 May at 5:45PM
    This stage (info all about the N180) is in the first 12 steps and in the NEWBIES thread too. Just DON'T follow the usual advice to email it to the CNBC because with a Counterclaim case, they aren't involved now.
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  • 1xvp1
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    This stage (info all about the N180) is in the first 12 steps and in the NEWBIES thread too. Just DON'T follow the usual advice to email it to the CNBC because with a Counterclaim case, they aren't involved now.
    Thanks I think I understand now. Fill this form and send it over? https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf
  • Johnersh
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    Yes. It should have been provided with the notice of proposed allocation. It appears you've not had it, so download that form, complete it and return it. There's no downside to proactively completely the N180 but there is to not filing one at all. Send it to the court and defendant.
  • Johnersh
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    This is a weird one because I don't even think Gladstones are anywhere near St Helens either?!

    @Coupon-mad I make it a 20 min drive. From Gladstones to the Court.

    It's the only explanation - that a busy court clerk mistakenly is treating the claimant/part 20 defendant as the defendant and taking their address on the claim form, while overlooking the fact that the Defendant/Part 20 Claimant (o/p) is unrepresented.

    UKCPM are, conversely,  in your back yard I believe. Surprised you've not completed personal service on them yet, if only for the lark....
  • 1xvp1
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    I've now returned the N180 form both to the Claimant and the Court. I did not get any notification that they received it however so hopefully it went fine.
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