UKPC windscreen for private space

breakerjacuzzi

I received a windscreen ticket in January and quickly messaged their appeal process (my bad didn’t see this forum before then thought would be cut and dry SHAME ON ME)
and have since received an response…

I own the space I was using. I am physically and cognitively disabled and have an adapted car. I’m legally allowed to drive etc and I did not display the resident permit for a day because I misplaced it.

I’ve admitted that however they’ve responded I still owe them a lesser amount.

What grinds my gears is that I already pay for the pleasure of having a parking enforced in my service charges. I own the space. Yes I’m in the wrong but I thought once I proved ownership this would be scrapped.

Should I just stump up the £20…?

[sorry I’ve I’ve missed an obvious pinned post]

Fruitcake

Of course you should not pay.

Plan A is always a complaint to the landowner and your MP. Before you do that, carefully read your lease/AST/property rental/ownership agreement to see what it says about parking, parking permits, unregulated private parking companies, parking charge notices, paying parking charge notices, and court. What it doesn't say is as equally if not more important than what it does say.

You residential agreement has primacy of contract over anything an unregulated private parking company has to say. They do not have the right to vary or remove your existing rights.

If you own the parking space, then you should send UKPC a cease and desist letter instructing them to cancel the parking charge and stay off your land. Warn them that if they fail to do so, you reserve the right to instigate court proceedings for unlawfully obtaining and processing your personal data (which includes your VRM).
If they refuse to do so, complain to the BPA.
You should also warn whoever employed UKPC that you will instigate court proceedings against them if they permit their sub-contractor to obtain and process your personal data.

You should also complain to the DVLA, including proof of land ownership, and instruct them never to sell your personal data to anyone, especially an unregulated private parking company. Again, warn them that if they unlawfully sell your personal data again, you reserve the right to instigate a court claim against them. 
Also require them to confirm they understand the land is yours, and give an assurance they will never sell your personal data again.

DVLA complaint addresses: -

ccrt@dvla.gov.uk 

and

KADOEservice.support@dvla.gov.uk

Coupon-mad

I own the space I was using. I am physically and cognitively disabled and have an adapted car. I’m legally allowed to drive etc and I did not display the resident permit for a day because I misplaced it.

I’ve admitted that however they’ve responded I still owe them a lesser amount. What grinds my gears is that I already pay for the pleasure of having a parking enforced in my service charges
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Yes I’m in the wrong...

YOU ARE NOT!  Do not say that.

You don't even need to display a permit! You realise that? Because you own the space they can't impose a permit scheme costing you a £100 per day risk. OPT OUT IMMEDIATELY.

And get your MP to complain to the parking firm and to the landowner and the BPA.

Half_way

You should not pay them a penny, unless you want to give up on the right of ownership of your very own parking space.

 If you are happy to hand your own property over to an un regulated parking company then by all means pay up and say good bye to the ability to use your own property for its intended purpose.

If not then you need to come down like a tone of bricks on whatever entity allowed an unregulated parking company to operate on your land

1505grandad

FYI  -  The new unregulated (soon to be replaced by a regulated CoP by the Government) single PP sector CoP recognises/acknowledges that this is a scam as they specifically state:-

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector Code Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130225.pdf

"14

Relationship with landowner

NOTE 3: Particular care is needed to establish appropriate contractual terms, including the

application of parking terms and conditions, in respect of controlled land where

leaseholders may have rights that cannot be qualified or overruled e.g. by imposing a

requirement on the resident of an apartment block to display a permit to park in

contravention of their rights under their lease, or to ensure that free parking periods do not

breach planning consents."

prowla

Send them an invoice for doing unauthorised business on your private land.

breakerjacuzzi

Hi everyone thanks for your replies I’m so grateful.
I’ve looked through my paperwork and the only mention to parking are what I’ve attached. Didn’t even clock the CHARGE for a new one! It’s a flimsy piece of paper that’s been used since 2008. Why is this not digital?!
I’ve also got official copy of land registry mapping that notes my space and it’s just highlighted 

breakerjacuzzi

prowla said:

Send them an invoice for doing unauthorised business on your private land.

Does it matter that the superior leaseholders know that they operate here?
I’m currently  shared ownership so I only own 70% but will be staircasing up to 100% ownership in the next few years. 

h2g2

The leasehold agreement gives you the "right to exclusively ... use the car parking space". That is a right that cannot be overridden by signs. This is a very easy win for you. I would suggest writing a cease & desist to UKPC telling them you have exclusive use of the space and they cannot charge you for its use, nor offer a contract or license to anyone for its use without your express permission, which is was not sought nor obtained.

But preferably better written than I just did. 

h2g2

breakerjacuzzi said:

prowla said:

Send them an invoice for doing unauthorised business on your private land.

Does it matter that the superior leaseholders know that they operate here?

It's very unlikely.

breakerjacuzzi

Fruitcake said:

 Before you do that, carefully read your lease/AST/property rental/ownership agreement to see what it says about parking, parking permits, unregulated private parking companies, parking charge notices, paying parking charge notices, and court. What it doesn't say is as equally if not more important than what it does say.

You residential agreement has primacy of contract over anything an unregulated private parking company has to say. They do not have the right to vary or remove your existing rights.

Thanks for your reply.
could you look at the pictures I’ve posted below and see what you think?