Double driver awareness course

cw8825

Baldytyke88 said:

cw8825 said:

@Baldytyke88 if you hadn't been on the police course, would you still be against going?

No, perfectly sensible to do a training course. There are other areas of my job where I feel we lack knowledge.

I had an issue today, a wheelchair user being transported, when the chair has no head restraint.

these courses are not linked

this mandatory training is seperate. They are not sending you on it because you got the speeding ticket just unfortunate timing

your kicking up a fuss where it’s not needed

HillStreetBlues

Baldytyke88 said:

facade said:

I fail to see an issue, unless the course is in the Shetlands and you are expected to drive there from Cornwall in your own time.

This is a money saving website and I dont like the council wasting money.

Then why did you speed? wasting council money by them having to deal with the paperwork.

LightFlare

Maybe they want to focus more on the liabilities, responsibilities and possible consequences of carrying members of the public in a vehicle and abiding by the laws of the road as opposed to just reminding you of said laws

Goudy

Baldytyke88 said:

facade said:

I fail to see an issue, unless the course is in the Shetlands and you are expected to drive there from Cornwall in your own time.

This is a money saving website and I dont like the council wasting money.

It will probably save money.
Your employer we be able to show that all it's drivers have attended an accredited course and they (they as in the  tax payers ultimately) will likely get a better deal on the insurance or lease of all it's vehicles or just reduced public liability premiums. 

By the sounds of it you deal with transporting the public in some way, so I'm sure there would be other mandatory training needed like H&S, Manual Handling, Information Governance, Fire Safety, COSHH along with certain mandatory checks, like CRB.

Most government institutions (like the one I work in) now link your training compliance to your PBR's and therefore your pay reviews. 
So it could be true, you could actually save them (the tax payer) a bit of money by not complying.

Herzlos

Car_54 said:

Herzlos said:

Baldytyke88 said:

TooManyPoints said:But you haven't been prosecuted. How did they find out you had been caught speeding?

I wasnt sure if they would know, but they do.

Company vehicle, so they saw the course offer before it was forwarded to you?

The company would have seen a NIP, and responded naming the OP. All further correspondence would have been direct between the police and the OP. The company wouldn't have seen it, unless he showed it to them.

The NIP would contain details of the offense though, which would be enough to trigger the course (if it was triggered and isn't just bad timing). They wouldn't need to know what the further correspondence would be.

If I had a company car and my company got a NIP I'd be fully prepared to have at least a lecture or some training in response. It may well be a condition of their insurance.

Baldytyke88

Goudy said:

By the sounds of it you deal with transporting the public in some way, so I'm sure there would be other mandatory training needed like H&S, Manual Handling, Information Governance, Fire Safety, COSHH along with certain mandatory checks, like CRB.

We did have mandatory training when we were part of the EU, but the Driver CPC training is no longer mandatory for my type of vehicle, so we do very little.

Over the last 15 years we have done various training courses, CPC was the first that referred to driving. Grandfather rights drivers do much less training than those with HGV or PSV, even less training than taxi drivers.

Baldytyke88

Herzlos said:

If I had a company car and my company got a NIP I'd be fully prepared to have at least a lecture or some training in response. It may well be a condition of their insurance.

I had a meeting with one of my managers about my speeding, she mentioned four of our drivers had got a speeding ticket at the same mobile camera. I have also done the .gov/DVLA speed awareness course.

One driver has had to go to court because he was over 12 points(not sure she should be telling me that).

Hoenir

Baldytyke88 said:

Herzlos said:

If I had a company car and my company got a NIP I'd be fully prepared to have at least a lecture or some training in response. It may well be a condition of their insurance.

I had a meeting with one of my managers about my speeding, she mentioned four of our drivers had got a speeding ticket at the same mobile camera. I have also done the .gov/DVLA speed awareness course.

One driver has had to go to court because he was over 12 points(not sure she should be telling me that).

No great surprise then that a course has been arranged. The council has to insure the vehicle fleet at considerable cost. Speeding and other offences committed increases their risk exposure. 

Car_54

Baldytyke88 said:

Herzlos said:

If I had a company car and my company got a NIP I'd be fully prepared to have at least a lecture or some training in response. It may well be a condition of their insurance.

I had a meeting with one of my managers about my speeding, she mentioned four of our drivers had got a speeding ticket at the same mobile camera. I have also done the .gov/DVLA speed awareness course.

Just for clarity, speed awareness courses have nothing to do with either the government or DVLA. 

They are run entirely on behalf of the police. 

Ditzy_Mitzy

The OP won't, in all likelihood, have any option other than taking the course.  It sounds as if the employer have a procedure in place that all employees caught speeding must attend a session within a specified period after the offence - it'll be down as a training requirement or similar in their guidelines.  With such procedures, there is invariably a requirement, too, that the employee be signed-off as having completed the training/endured the bawling out/whatever.  Nothing will progress until that is done and there could be adverse effects of not doing it, such as a ban on driving company cars.