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Is my meter an RTS meter?

GingerPumpkin11
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Could anyone tell me if my meter is one of the ones that will be affected by the RTS switch off in June?
I originally had two Mpans for the property when I moved in. I got ovo to change the meter to an economy 7 meter last year and de-energize one of the mpans so I could have one mpan number and be able to switch energy providers. So I'd rather not have to get it changed again already unless I have to. I also live in a rural area and smart meters aren't very reliable here.
I have an economy 7 meter, a Landis Gyr E150.
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It's actually a Landis+Gyr 5246CIt's not RTS - just a standard 5 port digital meter - AFAIKhttps://www.landisgyr.com/webfoo/wp-content/uploads/product-files/5246_Technical_Specification11.pdfI'm not sure what the E150 sticker refers to - but it's not the meter type.From Ofgem / govt approved list spreadsheetAMPY/L+G 5246C-* 1 2 1 Multi 1003 20So has 20 year certification period.Does anyone else know if that CI A 2017 means 2017 is the actual certification date - as there is no separate sticker with date as appears on other meters - and the picture in the product manual pdf above has CI 2 2007 for a document produced in 2008
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Scot_39 said:Does anyone else know if that CI A 2017 means 2017 is the actual certification date - as there is no separate sticker with date as appears on other meters - and the picture in the product manual pdf above has CI 2 2007 for a document produced in 2008
[Looking at a photo of our old L+G, it likewise said CI 2 2015 and M15, as well as having printed 'certified September 2015' - we couldn't have asked for anything clearer]
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So barring any weird problems with the series (reliability / accuracy wise) - the OPs meter appears to be certified until 2037.
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Can you tell I have no clue about these things, didn't even know what the meter type number was. 😂
Thanks for your reply. It's good to know I don't have to rush into getting a smart meter fitted quite yet. I've had two years in total of Ombudsman cases to get my meter changed to this one from the original 2 mpan quantum storage heater set up, so I could have one economy 7 meter and one mpan. So I'd rather keep the one I have for a bit before I have to get another meter fitted.
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The fact that its certified for 20 or whatever number of years does not mean that you have a right to keep it for 20 years.
Even though a meter may be certified for a certain period, its entirely up to the owner of the meter (energy co or whomever they sub contact to) to decide if and when they want to change and for whatever reason, generally providing its within the certification period.
Likewise if its proved that meters remain within specification after the certification period expires then the period can be extended if necessary.Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers0 -
Equally though, they probably won’t worry too much about chasing this one to be changed yet awhile, while there are still plenty of folk with time expired meters actively trying to avoid having a “dreadful” smart meter installed. The good news for the OP is that the next change is likely to be far more straightforward than the last one was, as it’s effectively a simple like-for-like swap!🎉 MORTGAGE FREE (First time!) 30/09/2016 🎉 And now we go again…New mortgage taken 01/09/23 🏡
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Just a thought - the E150 could at a push be the meter SSC code configuration 150.150 is the SSC code for E7 for night off peak 00:15 - 07:15
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Scot_39 said:Just a thought - the E150 could at a push be the meter SSC code configuration 150.
An SSC is a settlement arrangement between a supplier and the distributor, so it's specific to the supply, not to the meter. That's how you can trace a set of TPRs via the SSC to the Meter Timeswitch Code (MTC) in the MPAN.
That said, you may occasionally see stickers on (older) meters giving the switching times and possibly the SSC as well. These could well change (e.g. with a change of supplier), but the sticker will show the configuration as it was when the meter was installed.I'm not being lazy ...
I'm just in energy-saving mode.3 -
Apologies to jump on this thread but I think I have the same meter as OP and I’m receiving the hounding letters/calls/emails from Octopus trying to get me to have a smart meter because allegedly I have an RTS meter, according to them, and I’m on economy 7. I’ve provided them with a photo of the meter (which I will post again here) which I had thought based on many things I’ve read and seen on this site and advice from other helpful people on here, is not an RTS meter, but Octopus are maintaining that it is and that they know it is because of the “meter register identifiers”. I’m not entirely sure what that is and whether the “register” has the correct information or whether they are just saying this to try to get me to switch! Does anyone have any thoughts or insight?Many thanks0
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They could be referring to the fact it'll be registered as a certain profile (type 2?) on the meter database, due to being Economy 7.
Maybe someone here could identify the most relevant part(s) of the specification document upthread to show them it doesn't use RTS.
You can also tell them the certification date - 2016 - and that it's certified for 20 years - per https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-4-uk-nationally-approved-electricity-meters … they do have a right to change your meter anyway, as your supplier, but if they decide they want to do that and not (just) because of thinking it's affected by the RTS switchoff, they should be honest about the reason. (I'm not saying they're not being honest, they probably do genuinely think they need to change it because it'll be affected - but if they still want to change it even when they accept it's not using an RTS and that it's within its certification period, then they need to be straight with you and say so.)
All that said, do you have any specific objections to having a smart meter, or is it a case of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' and you just don't need one yet?1
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