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PIP was 2nd claim with new conditions but from 15 April 2025 new 3rd claim as advised.

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  • peteuk
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    tifo said:
    I'm not claiming PIP for vision issues. That was for WCA at the time the referral was made when i was in a bad state with it. Then covid came, 2 years wasted and 30 months later was my assessment when i'd improved a bit. And the work coach asked me to apply for PIP because even with fitnotes i was still having to keep in touch with the jobcentre from the decision to the tribunal (8 months) when they said they no longer want fitnotes.
    Would be interesting to know how Covid affected your PIP claim?  Two years wasted?  
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  • sammyjammy
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    tifo said:
    The point is, if your vision is good enough to drive then it's good enough to do the daily activities.  You're not going to score points for vision problems when you evidently have one good or adequately functioning eye.  You might score some points if the pain affects certain activities, but not for vision problems.
    I'm not claiming PIP for vision issues. That was for WCA at the time the referral was made when i was in a bad state with it. Then covid came, 2 years wasted and 30 months later was my assessment when i'd improved a bit. And the work coach asked me to apply for PIP because even with fitnotes i was still having to keep in touch with the jobcentre from the decision to the tribunal (8 months) when they said they no longer want fitnotes.

    I did get 2 points for not being able to put in my own eye drops.
    A work coach, in a professional capacity, knows little to nothing about PIP, they would not ask you to apply for it, even if they suggested it and you miraculously received it then it would have no impact on your requirements for the Jobcentre.
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  • M25
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    edited 10 December 2024 at 8:21AM
    tifo said:
    I don't think a medical professional would write to the DVLA if i cannot drive on some occasions, even if months, when I usually am OK to.

    Doctors have the hippocratic oath but that won't stop them reporting you to the DVLA.

    That's a very dangerous game you're playing. What I mean by that is if you do have a serious eye problem (or not) and the consultant finds out you're driver they will likely question you and if they're not satisifed they will report you (the DVLA have an email address just for for that purpose).


    As for your PIP, when you get the forms make copies and try and post as much non-private information as possible and I'm sure you'll get help and pointed in the right direction. 

    Lots of good people here will help with that.




  • tifo
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    edited 10 December 2024 at 1:11PM
    poppy12345 said: 

    It seems like to me that you've had a new diagnosis and thought you'd apply again to try your luck. I still think you're missing the point that many members are trying to make. 

    Are you still affected by the conditions you had for your last claim?
    Yes, i'm still affected by the conditions from my last claim, namely neovascular glaucoma in the left eye from 2018, which gives regular pain, tears and migraine headache, and uveitis, and cortical cataract in my right eye which isn't affecting me yet. The left eye was very bad at the time I came to UC at beginning of 2019 as i was, wrongly, advised by Shelter that i can no longer claim tax credits because i'm not working. The day after going on UC i checked and could have informed tax credits that i'm ill for up to 26 weeks without affecting my claim. Thus the nightmare on UC started as i was giving fitnotes but still having to go to the jobcentre every few weeks when clearly even the work coach could see and said that i can't work. But they have to tick the appointment box. Because of DWP errors with my referral after the WCA form, i ended up waiting until September 2021 for my assessment because of covid rather than in July 2019 when my appointment should have been.

    I'm still affected by gout though not as much as before.

    I'm not trying my luck because i've a new condition, i'm claiming because it's affecting my mobility and osteoarthritis gets worse not better. I've waited 3 months before calling the PIP helpline and the stiffness and pain has been the same for several months.

    When you say "again to try your luck" many users replying to my other thread advised that it's better to make another claim, if i'm still affected, than go to upper tribunal.

    My conditions are lifelong and will get worse. Just because i got unfair medical reports last time and the tribunals were unfair too esp for PIP doesn't mean i got better and should not claim again. The system worked against me last time to DWP advantage, esp the 2 years and 6 months delay over covid after they lost my first UC50 form in July 2019. Whether you agree or not this is what i believe.
  • I've got high blood pressure, high cholesterol, arthritis, poor eyesight, asthma and herniated back discs. I still do a physical job albeit more slowly than when I was younger. You seem to make getting pip a full time job.
  • I still don't understand what it is you're claiming for OP, you've said before that it doesn't affect your eye sight. Stiff knees is part of life for most people beyond about 40. 

    I don't understand the energy you're putting into what is a horrible process, I've been through it, when there's minimal if any likelihood of it result in a penny of payment.
  • Cressida100
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    edited 10 December 2024 at 3:17PM
    I claim low rate daily living PIP for end-stage RA. I've been under consultant care for 35 years and although most of my joints are now affected I am still working (67) past retirement age (albeit with a few work adjustments and a brilliant employer). My medications are biologic infusions and methotrexate along with a multitude of pain relief. I have had OA in my knees for 15 years and I am on the list for a total knee replacement next year but I don't claim for mobility. The majority of people get age related OA unless they are one of the lucky few. I don't think it's a shoe in that you qualify. Like others have said you seem totally desperate to get PIP for whatever ailment you come up with. Sorry if this is harsh but it's frustrating to read these threads when people are putting a lot of effort trying to advise you. 

    ETA: I also have several other auto-immune conditions which I do not claim for as although they are inconvenient I would not qualify for higher level under the PIP descriptors. My PIP was recently renewed as ongoing without an interview which was a nice surprise. 
  • poppy12345
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    Why are bringing in UC and tax credits into this? PIP has nothing to do with either of those. If you do what you did the first time round I can see this heading in the same direction. 

    You haven’t yet given one reason why you think you should score points in any of the descriptors. 
  • For the people piling on to say all their ailments and they don't claim, that's not really relevant or helpful.  'I suffer so I don't see why others shouldn't too' is not a good basis for any advice, ever.  Whether you work or not with your conditions is irrelevant for claiming PIP.

    What solely counts, and what hasn't been answered (and I'm not going to be engaging after this until/unless it is explained) is what descriptors someone feels they meet and why.
  • poppy12345 said:
    If you do what you did the first time round I can see this heading in the same direction. 

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