PIP was 2nd claim with new conditions but from 15 April 2025 new 3rd claim as advised.

tifo

poppy12345 said:

This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused, as you know. 

"This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused".

For different conditions, as you know.

This is a new condition and so a new claim. I didn't previously claim again for the same conditions.

tifo

peteuk said:

tifo said:.

"you've an eye condition that you think means you should have LCWRA on UC and entitlement to PIP but it doesn't affect your driving".

No affect on driving unless it was very severe which it was for six months and I didn't drive much, because the eye condition is in my blind eye from childhood and doesn't affect the vision eye. At every hospital appointment they do an eye test which I pass.

`I hate to say this, and I will probably be lambasted for it, youve a driving licence your eye problem will be discredited. You can say how much it effects you, however the contra evidence is that a medical professional has not advised you to contact DVLA and give up you licence because you eye problem is not significant enough to stop you driving. 

You can say that you dont drive on bad days etc etc but when writing the report taking into consideration that you still have the ability and capcity to drive on any given day the assessor is likely to go with this.  It’s the abscence of direction from a medical health care professional that stands out more than your claim. 

I would also add that your high cholesterol will add nothing to a PIP assessment, your on medication, been given dietary advice then the effect will be your levels normalise.  5.0 mmols is considered normal unless you have other cardiac issues 

"a medical professional has not advised you to contact DVLA and give up you licence because you eye problem is not significant enough to stop you driving".

You forget, and i don't blame you as it's been a few years, that the eye condition affects one eye only and my vision is up to the driving standard with the other eye as it always has been. The condition was severe when I made my WCA claim, then PIP, and in the time it took for an assessment i was better but not recovered. I don't think a medical professional would write to the DVLA if i cannot drive on some occasions, even if months, when I usually am OK to.

My experience is that the assessor's are biased, whilst some on here may not agree but it is their untruths that i could not get over in the tribunal. They took the good days and made it the default majority when at that time the bad days were a majority for me. There were also many made up statements that i'd not said or would have done.

In the end, the long delay in getting my WCA appointment worked to the DWP's advantage, as well as the fact that they used both WCA and PIP assessment reports in both tribunals, hence I was having to argue about PIP descriptors in the WCA and WCA descriptors in the PIP as well as their own. I've said this many times that the tribunal was jumping from report to report. The DWP said that i'm OK for work (WCA) and therefore have no daily living needs or mobility needs (PIP) and also that i have no daily living and mobility needs (PIP) so am OK for work (WCA) when the two assessments have different criteria and my ability to work or not is not in PIP.

poppy12345

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused, as you know. 

"This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused".

For different conditions, as you know.

This is a new condition and so a new claim. I didn't previously claim again for the same conditions.

Indeed I know but PIP isn’t awarded based on a diagnosis alone. 

Spoonie_Turtle

tifo said:

peteuk said:

tifo said:.

"you've an eye condition that you think means you should have LCWRA on UC and entitlement to PIP but it doesn't affect your driving".

No affect on driving unless it was very severe which it was for six months and I didn't drive much, because the eye condition is in my blind eye from childhood and doesn't affect the vision eye. At every hospital appointment they do an eye test which I pass.

`I hate to say this, and I will probably be lambasted for it, youve a driving licence your eye problem will be discredited. You can say how much it effects you, however the contra evidence is that a medical professional has not advised you to contact DVLA and give up you licence because you eye problem is not significant enough to stop you driving. 

You can say that you dont drive on bad days etc etc but when writing the report taking into consideration that you still have the ability and capcity to drive on any given day the assessor is likely to go with this.  It’s the abscence of direction from a medical health care professional that stands out more than your claim. 

I would also add that your high cholesterol will add nothing to a PIP assessment, your on medication, been given dietary advice then the effect will be your levels normalise.  5.0 mmols is considered normal unless you have other cardiac issues 

"a medical professional has not advised you to contact DVLA and give up you licence because you eye problem is not significant enough to stop you driving".

You forget, and i don't blame you as it's been a few years, that the eye condition affects one eye only and my vision is up to the driving standard with the other eye as it always has been. 

The point is, if your vision is good enough to drive then it's good enough to do the daily activities.  You're not going to score points for vision problems when you evidently have one good or adequately functioning eye.  You might score some points if the pain affects certain activities, but not for vision problems.

tifo

Spoonie_Turtle said:

The point is, if your vision is good enough to drive then it's good enough to do the daily activities.  You're not going to score points for vision problems when you evidently have one good or adequately functioning eye.  You might score some points if the pain affects certain activities, but not for vision problems.

I'm not claiming PIP for vision issues. That was for WCA at the time the referral was made when i was in a bad state with it. Then covid came, 2 years wasted and 30 months later was my assessment when i'd improved a bit. And the work coach asked me to apply for PIP because even with fitnotes i was still having to keep in touch with the jobcentre from the decision to the tribunal (8 months) when they said they no longer want fitnotes.

I did get 2 points for not being able to put in my own eye drops.

tifo

poppy12345 said:

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused, as you know. 

"This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused".

For different conditions, as you know.

This is a new condition and so a new claim. I didn't previously claim again for the same conditions.

Indeed I know but PIP isn’t awarded based on a diagnosis alone. 

The osteoarthritis is affecting how much i can bend my left knee, with pain, the right knee isn't so bad at the moment. This has been the same since diagnosed after i went to the GP for regular blood test and mentioned the stiff knee and pain. 

And i still get gout.

poppy12345

I find it odd that you've returned and had an answer for a lot of questions apart from this one. 

Which descriptors do you think you should score points for and why?

tifo

poppy12345 said:

I find it odd that you've returned and had an answer for a lot of questions apart from this one. 

Which descriptors do you think you should score points for and why?

i've not gone through the info again because i'm still waiting for my form and will do so when i complete it, like i did last year. Previously the descriptors i looked at were for different conditions.

poppy12345

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

I find it odd that you've returned and had an answer for a lot of questions apart from this one. 

Which descriptors do you think you should score points for and why?

i've not gone through the info again because i'm still waiting for my form and will do so when i complete it, like i did last year. Previously the descriptors i looked at were for different conditions.

Then how do you know if you can score enough of points needed for an award? This is rather a strange way of going about it, especially because you've already been through the whole process before. Why on earth are you waiting until the form is completed before looking to see where and why you think you maybe able to score points. 

It seems like to me that you've had a new diagnosis and thought you'd apply again to try your luck. I still think you're missing the point that many members are trying to make. 

Are you still affected by the conditions you had for your last claim?

kkkklinky

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

tifo said:

poppy12345 said:

This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused, as you know. 

"This is the reason why you shouldn't say as little as possible. They've already taken a claim to a Tribunal and were refused".

For different conditions, as you know.

This is a new condition and so a new claim. I didn't previously claim again for the same conditions.

Indeed I know but PIP isn’t awarded based on a diagnosis alone. 

The osteoarthritis is affecting how much i can bend my left knee, with pain, the right knee isn't so bad at the moment. This has been the same since diagnosed after i went to the GP for regular blood test and mentioned the stiff knee and pain. 

And i still get gout.

To be honest based on the very little info you have provided in the above quote and the post in general I think you are just trying your luck for an award again due to being denied. Unfortunately there is a lot of misleading articles claiming you can get large PIP payout just for '" having a diagnosed condition", it does not work that way. I have recently been diagnosed with MS after many years of medical issues and even I would not get enough points for an award( I know the criteria well due to dealing with a Schizophrenic ex partner who gets PIP), because it's based on how your condition affects you in daily life not a diagnosis and the criteria is quite strict IMHO.