CPM ANPR PCN - Leaseholder with exclusive use of space

Grizebeck

Then see what the firm contestor legal comes back or give Jackson there a call
Would you be interested in doing this as a litigant in person?

1505grandad

Also wonder how the OP's situation fits with the new joint ATA CoP:-

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/NEW Redesigned Documents/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1260624.pdf

"The BPA and IPC are continuing to raise

standards by adopting a joint Code which

comes into effect from the 27th June 2024.

The Code sets out straight-forward rules for all

private parking companies to follow across the

sector helping to ensure that private parking

companies continue to provide professional

services whilst maintaining consistency to the

motoring public."

In the new CoP it states (page 27):-

"Relationship with landowner

NOTE 3: Particular care is needed to establish appropriate contractual terms, including the

application of parking terms and conditions, in respect of controlled land where

leaseholders may have rights that cannot be qualified or overruled e.g. by imposing a

requirement on the resident of an apartment block to display a permit to park in

contravention of their rights under their lease, or to ensure that free parking periods do not

breach planning consents."

Mullerice

Grizebeck said:

Then see what the firm contestor legal comes back or give Jackson there a call
Would you be interested in doing this as a litigant in person?

I’ll try Contestor Legal tomorrow 

if it means other people in my situation don’t get their property rights trampled all over and their parking spaces turned into pay or display car parks for CPM’s profit, I’m more than happy to turn up in person. 

It’s not fun having letter upon letter from “debt collectors” and “bailiffs” threatening court action, CCJs and bankruptcy like I’ve experienced since 2019. I think I mentioned previously, at one point Gladstones were aggressively demanding thousands of pounds from me. Indeed there’s still a large sum outstanding on their system from several years ago (screenshots above somewhere)

Also I’m an avid environmentalist, and the amount of wasted paper and ink is really an issue that needs to be wiped out. 

Mullerice

AAAAANNNDDD my friend just received a PCN for the heinous crime of… swinging by for 11 minutes to pick me up last weekend! 

Mullerice

1505grandad said:

Also wonder how the OP's situation fits with the new joint ATA CoP:-

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/NEW Redesigned Documents/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1260624.pdf

"The BPA and IPC are continuing to raise

standards by adopting a joint Code which

comes into effect from the 27th June 2024.

The Code sets out straight-forward rules for all

private parking companies to follow across the

sector helping to ensure that private parking

companies continue to provide professional

services whilst maintaining consistency to the

motoring public."

In the new CoP it states (page 27):-

"Relationship with landowner

NOTE 3: Particular care is needed to establish appropriate contractual terms, including the

application of parking terms and conditions, in respect of controlled land where

leaseholders may have rights that cannot be qualified or overruled e.g. by imposing a

requirement on the resident of an apartment block to display a permit to park in

contravention of their rights under their lease, or to ensure that free parking periods do not

breach planning consents."

Thanks for bringing that to my attention! I’ll make sure to forward this information on to the management company tomorrow and request that they demonstrate to me how they have engaged with CPM to ensure that their “enforcement” is in line with the ‘The private parking sector single Code of Practice’

i went on a bit of an emailing spree today, and guessed the email of every senior person listed on the MC’s website as well as the directors on companies house. 

So far the a Director on Companies House, the Managing Director and the Regional Manager have replied so waiting to hear back about various questions I’ve asked of them to understand the basis for them engaging CPM in this fashion. 

I’m beyond annoyed now. If a friend gets a PCN for being here for 11 minutes, that means all delivery drivers such as Amazon are at risk - Amazon could blacklist our block due to this and refuse to deliver to us… 

I have just filled out the contact form for Contestor Legal. Hopefully they can help. If not I’ll contact my insurance Motor Legal 

Grizebeck

A litigatant in person is someone who conducts and runs thier own litigation 

Mullerice

Grizebeck said:

A litigatant in person is someone who conducts and runs thier own litigation 

Ahh I see - in that case yes, with the right support 

Mullerice

Just a little update on this. 

CPM continue to template-reject the “appeals”. Do I just ignore them now? 

Do I just ignore all further PCNs received? 

Really can’t be bothered extending them any more of my time! 

I’ve been in contact with several senior people at the management company including a registered Director. So they are now fully aware of the issues they are causing here. Waiting on a reply since Thursday. 

I’ve made contact with Contestor Legal as suggested, but of a slow process getting passed around to the relevant department so will see what happens when I get to speak with the right person. 

I’ve called Admiral today to discuss this with their legal team, as I have the Family Legal Protection on my policy with them. This might be the best route to go given that it seems they will sponsor the legal fees involved. 

Thanks to everyone who’s had input so far! 

Gr1pr

Personally, I would appeal each and every one using a single boilerplate templated appeal, as keeper, ignoring the subsequent paperwork, be seen to be doing the right thing and not ignoring them

The subsequent demands for each appealed PCN dont matter, only a possible court claim actually matters 

Meanwhile, keep up the offensive with your newly elected MP, contestor legal etc

The_Slithy_Tove

Could the OP warn CPM and the management company (who are jointly liable) that their behaviour is amounting to harassment under these circumstances? Such a threat may put enough pressure on the management company to act.