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Group Nexus DCB Legal court claim, at WS stage

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,691 Forumite
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    edited 19 January at 9:02PM
    Hi, Ive received the this letter today from the court.
    What does it mean "unless the court orders otherwise, I will also be liable for the costs which the defendant has incurred.
    Just as the Newbie post says, "the Claim form did not specify the term breached". So what exactly do I need to put in the witness statements??? I dont even know what term I breached. I honestly do not really know what to write and what documents to include.

    Errrm surely you aren't planning on paying the Claimant's hearing fee for them?!  You are not the Claimant.

    You just (as normal... read any other threads...) do your WS in time, and you should know already from the WS & evidence section in the second post of the Newbies thread, what that looks like and exactly what exhibits to include because I already list them for everyone there.
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  • Blackysowner
    Blackysowner Posts: 58 Forumite
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    Already spent more than 3 hours today, to read through stuff about WS and drafting, editing it... (goodness, so unfair that such scamming company can easily make it so that it would cost so much time and effort for their victims to defend themselves from nonsense accusations.)
    Also, pretty unfair that in my case, they could wait until I prepared and sent the WS first (before 11 Feb), before deciding to pay the court fee (26 March) or just discontinue the case (in which, of course I know they will very likely discontinue it). This makes me have to spend hours to prepare the WS and documents, before they finally discontinuing it.

    Anyhow, sorry for the blabbing... I got a few questions here, hope they dont sound too silly:

    1. Should I use MS word to write the WS, and then just put everything in it, then save a pdf copy of the file when Im done, and email it to the Court and to CP PLUS LTD/DCBLegal? Which emails should I send to? The local court one and the general email of DCBLegal?

    2. Exhibits <these are like reference files, yes? How do I attach them? Should I just paste them all at the front of the word file since they are images (like the Beavis case sign from google and the images of different cases)?

    3. Since they didnt even mention what displayed terms and conditions I've breached, do I still need to include the photos of the signs from the car park in my case?
    Images on google map is quite old, I'll have to go there in person to take some photos if thats the case.

    4. I read different WS samples and people often put "My defence is repeated and I will say as follows", does that mean apart from the factual thing that Im going to mention, and a bit of wordings and conclusions being different, I shall make sure the rest is almost identical as my defence? Or shall I just put my defence is partially repeated??? (Since the WS I've read included a lot more cases.)

    5. In my case I really dont know much to say, so just a really short story of what I did and what happened later would be enough?

    Again, thanks for your help!
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,685 Forumite
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    It is Witness Statement (WS) time then, 
    @Harry77
    @Defendant911
    have the latest WS examples that you can use for style and format help.  A WS is "in support of my defence as already filed" and is a narrative of what happened on the day and subsequently.  It is written in the First Person ("I") in your own words.  It is also the opportunity to provide evidence in support of arguments you have used in your defence and in your WS.  You don't need to reiterate anything that you put in your defence and you cannot add new defence points.

  • punchdrunked
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    edited 21 January at 2:49PM
    Sorry to pipe in here - I too am at the early stages of this type of activity and will ask questions in another thread. Can I ask why you didn't just pay the £60 and be done with it?

    While I'm at it, can someone kindly direct me to the newbie section for templates etc?
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,685 Forumite
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    Sorry to pipe in here - I too am at the early stages of this type of activity and will ask questions in another thread. Can I ask why you didn't just pay the £60 and be done with it?

    While I'm at it, can someone kindly direct me to the newbie section for templates etc?
    Why would anybody pay whilst these PPCs remain unregulated?  The NEWBIE sticky is on the first page of the parking forum and is one of the announcements.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 22 January at 1:06AM
    Sorry to pipe in here - I too am at the early stages of this type of activity and will ask questions in another thread. Can I ask why you didn't just pay the £60 and be done with it?

    While I'm at it, can someone kindly direct me to the newbie section for templates etc?
    Because the entire industry is rotten and operating what MPs called 'an outrageous scam'.

    Nobody should pay a private parking charge, all the time that the industry ducks regulation by squealing like pigs and throwing money (IMHO rinsed from duped victims) at it.

    Did you miss the directions about where to click for the NEWBIES thread, under every post I make? Look:
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  • Blackysowner
    Blackysowner Posts: 58 Forumite
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    Hi, Ive been preparing the WS, and also asked a friend who had to pass through the retail park to take some photos.
    First of all, I did not include so many cases in my defense before. Since we cant add new defence points, does that mean that I cannot include other cases? (Like, other "strike out" cases apart from the "Chan" one)
    Secondly, The retail park seemed to have updated their parking signs recently, should I still include them? And should I mention this in my WS too? (I could only find a very unclear old signs on google map from Nov 2020, and below is the comparison between old and new sign, Im not even sure if either of them was the sign that was there when I went to the retail park back in Aug 2023.)
    Thirdly, I still havent received their WS as of today, shall I mention this in my WS and said that I cannot respond to it in my WS?


  • Gr1pr
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    Please change the thread title to something more suitable like 

    Group Nexus DCB Legal court claim,  at WS stage 

    Or something similar,  thank you 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,691 Forumite
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    Hi, Ive been preparing the WS, and also asked a friend who had to pass through the retail park to take some photos.
    First of all, I did not include so many cases in my defense before. Since we cant add new defence points, does that mean that I cannot include other cases? (Like, other "strike out" cases apart from the "Chan" one)
    Secondly, The retail park seemed to have updated their parking signs recently, should I still include them? And should I mention this in my WS too? (I could only find a very unclear old signs on google map from Nov 2020, and below is the comparison between old and new sign, Im not even sure if either of them was the sign that was there when I went to the retail park back in Aug 2023.)
    Thirdly, I still havent received their WS as of today, shall I mention this in my WS and said that I cannot respond to it in my WS?


    You can add whatever case law you want, even though you only mentioned Chan at first.

    The difference in those signs is remarkably good evidence!

    When's your deadline? DCB Legal will discontinue so keep checking your emails.
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  • Blackysowner
    Blackysowner Posts: 58 Forumite
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    Thank you for your reply!
    I can only say that both signs dont seem to have very big letters stating things in very clear way. Is that enough?
    Shall I include the old low res car park sign photo in the WS???
    The deadline for WS is 11th Feb, so more than a week later, but I aim to finish this and send it out in the next few days.
    They dont have to pay the court fee until 26th March, so I assume they would wait till later to send me the discontinue notice?
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