I have a PCN for a private parking company (groupnexus)

Joe_641

Coupon-mad said:

Joe_641 said:

Coupon-mad said:

You'd win. Jopson v Homeguard applies.  Search the forum or Google.

DO NOT PAY ANYTHING.

Hi,

Can you explain this in more detail, and maybe send me screenshots of parts that would confirm I'd win in court please?

Thanks

No, you just need to read the NEWBIES thread.

And Google Jopson v Homeguard.

Can someone help explain this? I honestly don't have the attention span/ADD to read through the whole Oxford County Court document..

Thanks

LDast

Paragraphs 20 and 21 of Jopson give you the necessary information that an appeal judge gave that is persuasive on the lower courts should this ever be pursued that far.

Unfortunately, we cannot do everything for you. We try to point you in the right direction so that you can find the information you require. There are hundreds of requests a day on here for assistance and advice. If you need more help in doing this, perhaps find someone that can assist you to do this.

Coupon-mad

Joe_641 said:

Coupon-mad said:

Joe_641 said:

Coupon-mad said:

You'd win. Jopson v Homeguard applies.  Search the forum or Google.

DO NOT PAY ANYTHING.

Hi,

Can you explain this in more detail, and maybe send me screenshots of parts that would confirm I'd win in court please?

Thanks

No, you just need to read the NEWBIES thread.

And Google Jopson v Homeguard.

Can someone help explain this? I honestly don't have the attention span/ADD to read through the whole Oxford County Court document..

Thanks

You could just read the newspaper articles that come up.

Joe_641

LDast said:

Paragraphs 20 and 21 of Jopson give you the necessary information that an appeal judge gave that is persuasive on the lower courts should this ever be pursued that far.

Unfortunately, we cannot do everything for you. We try to point you in the right direction so that you can find the information you require. There are hundreds of requests a day on here for assistance and advice. If you need more help in doing this, perhaps find someone that can assist you to do this.

I read it all and I think I'd do pretty good in court considering I obviously wasn't parking there. I uploaded the proof I was doing a delivery with the phone screen of the delivery app to POPLA, I've since lost that picture or just deleted it. Is it possible to reread my appeal and find this picture, if this goes to court? I'll need that picture if this goes to court. Do you think I should let this go to court? I can't get a new screenshot, since amazon flex have since terminated my account...

The fine currently with groupnexus is £170. If this goes to court, and should I lose, how much would I end up paying altogether?

Joe_641

Coupon-mad said:

You'd win. Jopson v Homeguard applies.  Search the forum or Google.

DO NOT PAY ANYTHING.

Hi,

Should I lose, how much would i end up paying altogether with court costs and the increase PCN fine? I'm tempted to take it to court.

Gr1pr

Its typically around £220 , or somewhere between £185 and £250 , providing that the spurious charges are thrown out in court, which they usually are, if it got that far, but many are discontinued before reaching the civil court, court is not inevitable 

Joe_641

Gr1pr said:

Its typically around £220 , or somewhere between £185 and £250 , providing that the spurious charges are thrown out in court, which they usually are, if it got that far, but many are discontinued before reaching the civil court, court is not inevitable 

Hi,

So this includes everything? Where can i find more info about court costs for fines and PCN's increasing for losing to court etc?

Gr1pr

These are not fines, magistrates issue fines for various transgressions , PCNs dont increase, the charge is on the PCN and does not change, its fixed at the rate shown on the PCN 

You can look on MCOL for various aspects, but the typical breakdown for one PCN is 


The PCN charge itself, typically £100 but may be less, shown on the signs and the postal pcn
The filing fee, typically £35 unless its changed recently 
£50 in legal fees, if incurred, typically by using a 3rd party lawyer firm 
The court hearing fee, which I believe may be £25 unless it's changed recently 

Or take our word for it, or look at any cases that lost within the last year 

The average total cost if you lose was £212 , but its up to the judge on the day 

Coupon-mad

Joe_641 said:

Gr1pr said:

Its typically around £220 , or somewhere between £185 and £250 , providing that the spurious charges are thrown out in court, which they usually are, if it got that far, but many are discontinued before reaching the civil court, court is not inevitable 

Hi,

So this includes everything? Where can i find more info about court costs for fines and PCN's increasing for losing to court etc?

The NEWBIES thread tells you that you'd only pay c£200 if you lost.  We do this all the time.

Email info@popla.co.uk and ask for all your data held under appeal ref xxxxxxxxxxx, including the appeal and attachments you sent to POPLA and the evidence pack from the parking firm.

Joe_641

Coupon-mad said:

Joe_641 said:

Gr1pr said:

Its typically around £220 , or somewhere between £185 and £250 , providing that the spurious charges are thrown out in court, which they usually are, if it got that far, but many are discontinued before reaching the civil court, court is not inevitable 

Hi,

So this includes everything? Where can i find more info about court costs for fines and PCN's increasing for losing to court etc?

The NEWBIES thread tells you that you'd only pay c£200 if you lost.  We do this all the time.

Email info@popla.co.uk and ask for all your data held under appeal ref xxxxxxxxxxx, including the appeal and attachments you sent to POPLA and the evidence pack from the parking firm.

£200 court costs? Or £200 including the £170 increased PCN fine?