Morrisons Pay-At-The-Pump Warning

EnPointe

Aylesbury_Duck said:

What's the relevance of being a pensioner?

there is no relevance to it. 

However it seems to be often used to   excuse people  who  choose to be incompetent  and/or  are unable ot  read instructions 

Aretnap

Bigphil1474 said:

Stopped using Pay at pump a few years ago. It's actually no quicker and the only Pay at pump only stations near me are Asda, so I don't use them. OP, go somewhere else. If enough people do that, then they might change the system.

Pah! Amateur! I won't use self-service stations at all. I only use the ones where you have to wait for the guy to come out of the kiosk and fill your car up for you.

WellKnownSid

Aretnap said:

Bigphil1474 said:

Stopped using Pay at pump a few years ago. It's actually no quicker and the only Pay at pump only stations near me are Asda, so I don't use them. OP, go somewhere else. If enough people do that, then they might change the system.

Pah! Amateur! I won't use self-service stations at all. I only use the ones where you have to wait for the guy to come out of the kiosk and fill your car up for you.

You drive yourself to the petrol station, that's insane?  I have a man for that.

Iceweasel

WellKnownSid said:

Aretnap said:

Bigphil1474 said:

Stopped using Pay at pump a few years ago. It's actually no quicker and the only Pay at pump only stations near me are Asda, so I don't use them. OP, go somewhere else. If enough people do that, then they might change the system.

Pah! Amateur! I won't use self-service stations at all. I only use the ones where you have to wait for the guy to come out of the kiosk and fill your car up for you.

You drive yourself to the petrol station, that's insane?  I have a man for that.

WellKnownSid said:

Aretnap said:

Bigphil1474 said:

Stopped using Pay at pump a few years ago. It's actually no quicker and the only Pay at pump only stations near me are Asda, so I don't use them. OP, go somewhere else. If enough people do that, then they might change the system.

Pah! Amateur! I won't use self-service stations at all. I only use the ones where you have to wait for the guy to come out of the kiosk and fill your car up for you.

You drive yourself to the petrol station, that's insane?  I have a man for that.

I simply never leave home - I send one of my many servants to do everything.
I'm a pensioner - what's a 'pay at pump'?

Exodi

Ectophile said:
pre-authorise £120 even if you only want half a tank of fuel.

In an ideal world they'd just charge people after for what they use and theft doesn't exist. But in reality there would be little stopping people pulling up in the middle of the night in vehicles with fake reg plates filling up a boot load of jerry cans at a few pumps and driving off. That's one of the reasons we have pre-authorisation.

Only pre-authorising £1 when the customer could fill up £120 and flee is a risk to the retailer. Therefore we remove that risk by pre-authorising a higher amount.

As someone that has family in France, I'm quite used to this. I also totally get why they would do that, I don't start jumping to conclusions about corporate greed.

Bigphil1474 said:

Stopped using Pay at pump a few years ago. It's actually no quicker and the only Pay at pump only stations near me are Asda, so I don't use them. OP, go somewhere else. If enough people do that, then they might change the system.

It's obviously quicker, don't be daft. 'Enough people' won't do that because convenience is king.

EnPointe

the whole myth of 'people will stop retailers from doing  something '  has  been proven to work once in the entire  history of mankind and that was Booths'  in it's tiny  Niche  dropping   self  service tills. 

 I do recall reading something that  when they moved to  the 120 gbp pre-authorisation there was the possibility of the system  asking for  a lower amount if the 120 was not  authorised , it appears that this is not being used at this time , this is something that might be changed by consumer  pressure 

BoGoF

Exodi said:

Ectophile said:
pre-authorise £120 even if you only want half a tank of fuel.

In an ideal world they'd just charge people after for what they use and theft doesn't exist. But in reality there would be little stopping people pulling up in the middle of the night in vehicles with fake reg plates filling up a boot load of jerry cans at a few pumps and driving off. That's why we have pre-authorisation.

Only pre-authorising £1 when the customer could fill up £120 and flee is a risk to the retailer. Therefore some opt to remove that risk by pre-authorising a higher amount.

As someone that has family in France, I'm quite used to this. I also totally get why they would do that, I don't start jumping to conclusions about corporate 

That's not why we have pre-auth. It was imposed by visa/mastercard and nothing to do with thefts from petrol stations.

Exodi

BoGoF said:

Exodi said:

Ectophile said:
pre-authorise £120 even if you only want half a tank of fuel.

In an ideal world they'd just charge people after for what they use and theft doesn't exist. But in reality there would be little stopping people pulling up in the middle of the night in vehicles with fake reg plates filling up a boot load of jerry cans at a few pumps and driving off. That's why we have pre-authorisation.

Only pre-authorising £1 when the customer could fill up £120 and flee is a risk to the retailer. Therefore some opt to remove that risk by pre-authorising a higher amount.

As someone that has family in France, I'm quite used to this. I also totally get why they would do that, I don't start jumping to conclusions about corporate 

That's not why we have pre-auth. It was imposed by visa/mastercard and nothing to do with thefts from petrol stations.

OK so what do you suggest it was introduced for then, if not to prevent theft?

Betterthanlife

Exodi said:

BoGoF said:

Exodi said:

Ectophile said:
pre-authorise £120 even if you only want half a tank of fuel.

In an ideal world they'd just charge people after for what they use and theft doesn't exist. But in reality there would be little stopping people pulling up in the middle of the night in vehicles with fake reg plates filling up a boot load of jerry cans at a few pumps and driving off. That's why we have pre-authorisation.

Only pre-authorising £1 when the customer could fill up £120 and flee is a risk to the retailer. Therefore some opt to remove that risk by pre-authorising a higher amount.

As someone that has family in France, I'm quite used to this. I also totally get why they would do that, I don't start jumping to conclusions about corporate 

That's not why we have pre-auth. It was imposed by visa/mastercard and nothing to do with thefts from petrol stations.

OK so what do you suggest it was introduced for then, if not to prevent theft?

To confuse pensioners, apparently 

BoGoF

Exodi said:

BoGoF said:

Exodi said:

Ectophile said:
pre-authorise £120 even if you only want half a tank of fuel.

In an ideal world they'd just charge people after for what they use and theft doesn't exist. But in reality there would be little stopping people pulling up in the middle of the night in vehicles with fake reg plates filling up a boot load of jerry cans at a few pumps and driving off. That's why we have pre-authorisation.

Only pre-authorising £1 when the customer could fill up £120 and flee is a risk to the retailer. Therefore some opt to remove that risk by pre-authorising a higher amount.

As someone that has family in France, I'm quite used to this. I also totally get why they would do that, I don't start jumping to conclusions about corporate 

That's not why we have pre-auth. It was imposed by visa/mastercard and nothing to do with thefts from petrol stations.

OK so what do you suggest it was introduced for then, if not to prevent theft?

As these are offline transactions it meant people could spend money they didn't have, so could get £50 worth of fuel but only have £5 in their account. Pre-auth prevents this but penalises those with £50 in their account who only want £20 worth of fuel.