Tesco not selling alcohol

DCFC79

maninthestreet wrote: »

Since when was it illegal in the UK to serve a 20 year old with alcohol?

did i say it was illegal, the think 21 policy is when if anyone looks under 21 they are asked for ID by the checkout operator so no ID then no sale even if the customer is over 18 years of age

RobertoMoir

tupperware wrote: »

I really despair at the lack of common sense in society these days. If you want to prevent underage drinking, why not have some police visit the usual haunts every 20 minutes and confiscate the stuff.

Well this is corporate slacktivism. How to look like you're doing something without worrying about solving any problems.

andyrules

DCFC79 wrote: »

the under 21 policy is working,

It isn't helping stop young people binge drinking in bars though, is it? I don't consider it helpful to stop an over-18 year old (remember the law and 18 year olds) carrying a bag containing a bottle of wine from the supermarket when shopping with a parent. There's a world of difference between that situation and a group of 13 year olds buying White Lightning to consume in the local park. If the law says 18, then if 18 is evidenced how can it be overruled?

It is making a nonsense of current laws that my 20 year old could legally drink herself stupid at a bar, yet not be allowed to help me with the shopping:rolleyes:

ShelfStacker_3

andyrules wrote: »

It isn't helping stop young people binge drinking in bars though, is it?

It isn't intended to. It's intended to stop them buying alcohol from shops. Claiming that it then doesn't stop all underage people from buying booze elsewhere doesn't make any sense.

andyrules

ShelfStacker wrote: »

It isn't intended to. It's intended to stop them buying alcohol from shops. Claiming that it then doesn't stop all underage people from buying booze elsewhere doesn't make any sense.

I didn't say it it isn't stopping underage people buying alcohol, I said it is stopping overage people who are accompanying someone shopping. I'm pretty sure those in bars are mostly of age as they are heavily id'd BUT allowed in if they are 18! I dread to think how the 25 rule will work, if it's introduced.

I suspect the 'rule' is aimed at the underage park-drinkers, but in effect drags in responsible over 18s (some way over), whilst nothing is done to stop the scourge of the all-night (legal) bingers!

We either have an '18' law or we don't! btw - I don't blame supermarkets - they must be as confused as the rest of us!

debtfreein4years

Helix wrote: »

I personally would have done the same, asked for ID from both of you. We are told in our training to use common sense so if its a Mother and Daughter then its OK but its pretty obvious if your 23 and shes 16 your not her mum unless you had her when you were 8 which isn't going to happen. If you were with a baby or a toddler then I would serve you. Plus btw its no longer illegal to serve alcohol to on duty police officers.

the thing i didnt mention is that i went through the checkout right after her mum and it was clear that she was nothing to do with me, she was just helping me with my shopping. i dont mind being asked for id but to be refused alcohol just because a minor was helping me pack my bags is ridiculous.

i didnt know the law had changed regarding serving police officers as it has been about a year since i last worked in a place where alcohol was sold, thanks for letting me know that.

mustrum_ridcully

The joys of living in Pathetic Britain...

Think 21 is reasonably sensible, but this you can't buy alcohol if you're with a minor is just daft... I'd go so far say it goes against the tradition of innocent until proven guilty, in otherwords you are assumed by default to be buying alcohol for a minor.

I've got a novel suggestion, how about the Police just nick the underage drinkers and inform the parents that their precious angels are actually trainee alcoholics? I suspect that might be more effective than some may imagine... I know a neighbourhood watch coordinator and he says that outside of rougher areas (like some council estates) kids that go out drinking are often all mouth and no trousers and just the possibility of being nicked is enough to stop the problem.

In the end Tesco's (etc...) bright idea will stop a very small number of illegal sales, but kids will still get booze either by using corner shops who don't care, getting 18+ year olds to buy it or stealing it from their parents (or even a shop).