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  • Thank you and the reason i put that note up was after spending hours clicking into all the links was mainly for ease.  I have actually printed off loads of information from the posts as some extend to many many pages of interesting info.  You really do have to read and read and read again when you are completely clueless like i am.
  • What is not clear?

    The claimant is making a point-by-point rebuttal of your defence, in part based on their assertation that you have used a generic internet available defence " in order to avoid paying PCNs" . Translation of this snide peace of prose is that the bad bad defendant is trying to get out of it, rather than having an honest actual point of disagreement.

    A lot of this stuff is utter tosh, and you should settle down and see where the 'spin' lies and how you will subsequently answer these points.

    As a starter, to my mind much of the 2.11 and 2.12 sections are wrong about terms and saying that the CRA does not apply here. Is car parking not a 'service' ???  Have a read of the CRA and see what you think.

    Once you can see where they have been 'economical with the truth', you will see the answers.
    What is CRA ? Please
  •  I am reading all the posts and many others and really trying to understand everything.  What are CPR'S and PDs  thanks.  I have read the check list on previous posts and cannot find these abbreviatons.  sorry to ask 
  • Coupon-mad
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    CRA = what the Template Defence says it is: the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

    PD  and CPRs = court rules.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • CRA = what the Template Defence says it is: the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

    PD  and CPRs = court rules.
    Feeling like i am going to buckle !!
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 18 April 2024 at 10:47PM
    Why? 

    The process is easier than doing an appeal.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Why? 

    The process is easier than doing an appeal.
    Thanks C-M I think because as i have no understanding of what i have got myself into and my head is really not processing the format.  i keep going over the 12 points again and again and clicking into the links and making notes and looking at draft witness statements and again making notes.  I am actually fearing the day in court and the judge saying take her down!! or that will be eight thousand pounds for wasting our time cause you don't know what you are doing!!  I have to sit down today and fill in the N180, just feeling a little overwhelmed but i really appreciate your response.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,263 Forumite
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    Why? 

    The process is easier than doing an appeal.
    Thanks C-M I think because as i have no understanding of what i have got myself into and my head is really not processing the format.  i keep going over the 12 points again and again and clicking into the links and making notes and looking at draft witness statements and again making notes.  I am actually fearing the day in court and the judge saying take her down!! or that will be eight thousand pounds for wasting our time cause you don't know what you are doing!!  I have to sit down today and fill in the N180, just feeling a little overwhelmed but i really appreciate your response.
    Even people who lose pay less than the claim.  Not more.  You are also picturing a criminal court which this is not.

    This is like a formal meeting where their rep says 'Judge, this person owes the Claimant some money' and you say 'no I don't, and here's why'.  Just like an appeal but in person and  local to you.

    And you might not even have a hearing!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Why? 

    The process is easier than doing an appeal.
    Thanks C-M I think because as i have no understanding of what i have got myself into and my head is really not processing the format.  i keep going over the 12 points again and again and clicking into the links and making notes and looking at draft witness statements and again making notes.  I am actually fearing the day in court and the judge saying take her down!! or that will be eight thousand pounds for wasting our time cause you don't know what you are doing!!  I have to sit down today and fill in the N180, just feeling a little overwhelmed but i really appreciate your response.
    Even people who lose pay less than the claim.  Not more.  You are also picturing a criminal court which this is not.

    This is like a formal meeting where their rep says 'Judge, this person owes the Claimant some money' and you say 'no I don't, and here's why'.  Just like an appeal but in person and  local to you.

    And you might not even have a hearing!
      feeling better now
  • N180 document ready for posting but the Automated Response - CCBCAQ@justice.gov.uk

    CCBC AQ

    15:31 (23 minutes ago)
    to me

    This mailbox is now closed, your email will not be actioned.

    I have searched for updates and cannot find anything.  Does anyone have this information to hand please.  Thanks

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