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  • rentaboy
    rentaboy Posts: 55 Forumite
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    400ixl said:
    OP, you are really confusing people by mixing up bulk / mains services and small batch / off grid which you need.

    Why can't you be specific as you have been asked to be several times over your random threads.

    What is this trailer? Do you mean a mobile home in a fixed location, a caravan which is mobile, a Camper van?
    Its a trailer parked up on the road side
  • rentaboy
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    mumf said:

    My brother lives ‘off grid’,and does work locally for local farmers,horticultural services etc. He buys diesel from them for his heating. Legal? Who knows ,but some of us still live a life where we help each other,are friends,and do good. Unfortunately now,society is becoming almost Orwellian.😩
    The book 1984
  • rentaboy
    rentaboy Posts: 55 Forumite
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    I wonder if i bough white diesel from the pump that I could get a rebate from the inland revenue?
  • lohr500
    lohr500 Posts: 1,353 Forumite
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    I doubt it. How much fuel are you using a week for the heater?
  • CliveOfIndia
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    edited 29 January 2024 at 5:44PM
    rentaboy said:
    I wonder if i bough white diesel from the pump that I could get a rebate from the inland revenue?
    Of course not.  If you fill a jerry-can with diesel from a forecourt, how on earth could you prove to the tax-man that you're using it for heating, rather than sticking it in your car?  And that's even if ...
    rentaboy said:

    a trailer parked up on the road side
    ... is entitled to lower-rate-tax fuel anyway.

    (Slight aside, and kind of the reverse situation.  Several years ago it was big news in our little village that a guy got done for running his diesel car on heating oil.  How they caught him I don't know, but he got a hefty fine.  Not sure modern diesels with all the new technology would run on heating oil, but his old banger seemed to run fine, and had been doing for many years by all accounts ....)

  • lohr500
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    Perhaps someone tipped off the revenue men?

    If they dipped his tank at the roadside they would be able to tell it was kerosene, not diesel. And a well tuned nose would probably recognise that the exhaust fumes were different. 

    If he was running on red diesel (agricultural and also used in some heating boilers) again it would show up on a tank dip.
  • rentaboy
    rentaboy Posts: 55 Forumite
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    rentaboy said:
    I wonder if i bough white diesel from the pump that I could get a rebate from the inland revenue?
    Of course not.  If you fill a jerry-can with diesel from a forecourt, how on earth could you prove to the tax-man that you're using it for heating, rather than sticking it in your car?  And that's even if ...



    There is a proper form out there for claiming back alcohol duty for say people who cook with it and burn it off so why not road fuel duty and VAT?
  • rentaboy
    rentaboy Posts: 55 Forumite
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    lohr500 said:
    Perhaps someone tipped off the revenue men?

    If they dipped his tank at the roadside they would be able to tell it was kerosene, not diesel. And a well tuned nose would probably recognise that the exhaust fumes were different. 

    If he was running on red diesel (agricultural and also used in some heating boilers) again it would show up on a tank dip.
    I dont have a diesel car!
  • lohr500
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    I don't recall saying you did. I was responding to CliveOfIndia's comment.

    Anyway, back to the topic. How much fuel do you use in your diesel heater to warrant so much concern over the price Crown charged you for the quantity you bought?

    You surely can't expect to pay the same price for a few litres from the pump, compared to a customer who buys 500 or 1000 litres at a time.

  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,320 Forumite
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    Sadly, the OP has been banned (possibly related to his enthusiasm for "alternative facts" and dodgy newspapers). We will never know.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
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