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I have a parking fine but not my vehicle

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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 16 December 2023 at 10:19PM
    You now need to go back and make the request to the DVLA and all the complaints I suggested in my previous post, as well as completing the AoS and preparing to defend this vexatious claim.
    Do get your MP involved as well, but it is most important that you get the landowner to understand this was neither you nor your vehicle, and that they are liable for their agent's breach of the DPA/GDPR, and jointly liable for any costs that will be awarded to you by the judge for unreasonable behaviour.


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  • MikeJXE
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    I'm not at all clued up in these situations but I am bewildered 

    It's not his car as confirmed by DVLA so why does he have to go through all this palava? 

    What happened to innocent until proved guilty 

    How could the parking firm hope to acheive a win ? 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 17 December 2023 at 1:08AM
    Yes, I agree.  This is different from other cases and the above poster is in the BMPA group and knows what he's talking about.
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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 17 December 2023 at 11:50AM
    Whilst I agree that this is different to the normal cases we see here, and I think troublemaker22's advice is most excellent, I think it would still be worth doing the AoS anyway to give the OP a little more time to make complaints and possibly even get a response from the DVLA before filing the suggested simplified defence.

    I do wonder however whether appeal case of VCS v Ian Edward should also be included. Even though it appears that the OP was not even the keeper, there should still be no assumption that the defendant was the driver.
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  • JerryJ64
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    edited 17 December 2023 at 1:19PM
    If the OP has never been the registered keeper of the vehicle, the question of where their details and association to the vehicle were obtained from? The PPC and DCB Legal must show the connection they have made between the defendant and the vehicle.

    An SAR to both the PPC and DCB Legal should hopefully elicit some evidence.

    Surely, even with the simple defence advised above, the defendant should be requesting strict proof of their claim that the defendant has any connection to the vehicle, either as driver or keeper.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 17 December 2023 at 11:43PM
    I don't think a DVLA Complaint has legs because what has happened is a similar name soft trace assumption.

    The litigator has served the wrong person having got the data from a CRA and assumed it's the same person.  Not the DVLA's issue.
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  • I don't think a DVLA Complaint has legs because what has happened is s similar name soft trace assumption.

    The litigator has served the wrong person having got the data from a CRA and assumed it's the same person.  Not the DVLA's issue.
    Coupon_Mad is spot on as usual.  It's highly unlikely that the bad guys got OP's address from the DVLA (but by all means check). 

    As to other points that have been made, as I said reasonable minds can differ, but I would keep it really simple at the defence stage - never drove it, was never its registered keeper - arguments about burdens of proof and citing cases can come later at the witness statement/skeleton argument stage, if the case gets that far.

    I don't oppose adding some optional decoration about "strict proof" but I don't think it adds anything legally in this case.
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