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SUCCESS DCB Legal Claim Form/Spring Parking

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 29 December 2023 at 11:41PM
    Of course.  Read it through and you can see what the sentence is saying.
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  • Of course.  Read it through and you can see what the sentence is saying.
    Ok thanks, makes sense. So point 10 should read:

    This Claimant must comply with the CPRs, they are legally represented and would be the first to accuse the Defendant of any slip in terms of compliance with court rules.  The Defendant believes that this, plus the fact that the interest has been improperly calculated on the entire claim - including the imaginary 'damages' - from the day of parking, as if the PCN was £165 that day (when in fact it was £55) should be more than sufficient abuse of process for the Claim to be struck out at allocation stage.”
  • I shall make those small tweaks today; but other than that do you think it looks good to submit @Coupon-mad ?(will need to wait until 3rd Jan now to submit with it being weekend and NY) 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 30 December 2023 at 8:55PM
    Swap 6 & 7 with 4 & 5.  It will flow better.
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  • paddyposh
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    Swap 6 & 7 with 4 & 5.  It will flow better.
    Thank you. Changes made, pasted below. How is this looking now? Ready to submit?

    1.     The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that any conduct by the driver was in breach of any term.  Further, it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as agents) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the boilerplate text in the Particulars of Claim ('the POC').

    The facts known to the Defendant:

     

    2.     The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper.

     

    3.     The Defendant and the family lived on the adjacent street, and parked on the side of the road with it being a terraced street. The Defendant authorises the vehicle to be used by drivers other than the Defendant himself on a regular basis. The Defendant cannot remember who was the driver at the material time of the incident. The Defendant can assure that the driver is insured but there is no legal obligation to name that person.

     

    4.     Furthermore, it could have been the Defendant or his wife, or even one of our parents. We always parked at the same location, with no issues nor any idea among any of the insured drivers in the family, that there was supposedly a 'parking contract' regime.

     

    5.     It is denied that the Claimant can hold a registered keeper liable under the only applicable law.  Even if they are able to show that they issued a timely and fully compliant Notice to Keeper, there was a lack of 'adequate notice of the parking charge' which in itself is a mandatory prerequisite of POFA 2012 Schedule 4.

     

    6.     The only ‘clear’ sign, which is visible at the location, states that wheel clamping is in operation, is in breach of POFA 2012 section 54, where it became a criminal offence to, without lawful authority, immobilise a vehicle by attaching an immobilising device, such as a wheel clamp, or move or restrict the movement of a vehicle by any means, intending to prevent or inhibit its removal by, among others, the driver.

     

    7.     The Defendant had not noticed any signage close to the where the vehicle was parked, when on a subsequent visit whilst disputing this PCN, showing the terms and conditions for use. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions that applied in the area leading up to the car park due to obscure signage which was impossible to read from where the vehicle was parked. The small signage was not suitable to alert a motorist.

     

    Significant CPR breaches

     

    8.     Further and in the alternative, the claim form is defective, per CPR PD 16, 2.1: "The claim form must include an address (including the postcode) at which the claimant lives or carries on business, even if the claimant’s address for service is the business address of their solicitor."  A PO Box is not a valid registered company address, held HHJ Paul Matthews in Smith v Marston Holdings Ltd & Anor [2020] EW Misc 23 (CC).

     

    9.     The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form.  The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity.  The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and would have required proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3.  No such document has been served.

     

    10.  This Claimant must comply with the CPRs: they are legally represented and would be the first to accuse the Defendant of any slip in terms of compliance with court rules.  The Defendant believes that this, plus the fact that the interest has been improperly calculated on the entire claim - including the imaginary 'damages' - from the day of parking, as if the PCN was £165 that day (when in fact it was £55) should be more than sufficient abuse of process for the Claim to be struck out at allocation stage.

     

    11.  The Defendant's stance regarding this punitive add-on is now underpinned by Government intervention and regulation.  The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities ('DLUHC') published on 7 February 2022, a statutory Code of Practice which all private parking operators must comply with, found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/private-parking-code-of-practice

     

    12.  Adding 'debt recovery' costs, damages or fees (however described) on top of a parking charge is banned. In a very short section called 'Escalation of costs' the new statutory Code of Practice now being implemented says: "The parking operator must not levy additional costs over and above the level of a parking charge or parking tariff as originally issued."  

     

    13.  This particular Claimant's legal team routinely continues to pursue a sum on top of each PCN, despite indisputably knowing that these are banned costs.  The claim is exaggerated by inclusion of a false, wholly disproportionate and unincurred 'damages' enhancement of £70 which the Claimant seems to have also added interest at 8% calculated from the date of parking.  Clearly an abuse of the court process.

     

    14.  The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  The Defendant should not be criticised for using some pre-written wording from a reliable source.  The Claimant is urged not to patronise the Defendant with (ironically template) unfounded accusations of not understanding their defence. This Defendant signed it after a great deal of research, after adding facts and reading the defence through several times because the court process is outside of their life experience and this claim was an unexpected shock.

     

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 5 January 2024 at 3:05AM
    Remove 7, 11, 12, 13 and 14.

    Renumber it then add the rest of the Template paragraph 4 onwards (renumbered of course).

    Change the end of 3 to:

    The Defendant can assure the court that all potential drivers were insured but there is no legal obligation to name that person.  Not that the Defendant knows who it was almost six years ago. The Claimant is put to strict proof of all allegations (including evidence of who was driving if held) and to provide photographic evidence of the visibility of any signage at the material time, and the unstated timings that they wish to rely on to suggest a breach.  The Defendant has not seen any evidence that the vehicle was parked and left for a period of time, as opposed to perhaps briefly loading, unloading or dropping off or picking up a passenger, which is not a 'parking period' anyway according to the statutory incoming DLUHC Code of Practice linked later in this defence.


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  • 1505grandad
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    "The Defendant has seen any evidence that the vehicle was parked and left for a period of time, as opposed to perhaps briefly loading,"

    Suggest there is  a "(not)" missing  -  "The Defendant has (not) seen any evidence that the vehicle was parked ..."
  • paddyposh
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    Thanks @Coupon-mad & @1505grandad - changes made, and again pasted the amended below... Is this now good to go do we think? plus of course the rest of the template afterwards.

    1.     The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that any conduct by the driver was in breach of any term.  Further, it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as agents) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the boilerplate text in the Particulars of Claim ('the POC').

    The facts known to the Defendant:

     

    2.     The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case, allegation(s) and what heads of cost are being pursued, making it difficult to respond. However, the vehicle is recognised and it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper.

     

    3.     The Defendant and the family lived on the adjacent street, and parked on the side of the road with it being a terraced street. The Defendant authorises the vehicle to be used by drivers other than the Defendant himself on a regular basis. The Defendant cannot remember who was the driver at the material time of the incident. The Defendant can assure the court that all potential drivers were insured but there is no legal obligation to name that person.  Not that the Defendant knows who it was almost six years ago. The Claimant is put to strict proof of all allegations (including evidence of who was driving if held) and to provide photographic evidence of the visibility of any signage at the material time, and the unstated timings that they wish to rely on to suggest a breach.  The Defendant has not seen any evidence that the vehicle was parked and left for a period of time, as opposed to perhaps briefly loading, unloading or dropping off or picking up a passenger, which is not a 'parking period' anyway according to the statutory incoming DLUHC Code of Practice linked later in this defence.

     

    4.     Furthermore, it could have been the Defendant or his wife, or even one of our parents. We always parked at the same location, with no issues nor any idea among any of the insured drivers in the family, that there was supposedly a 'parking contract' regime.

     

    5.     It is denied that the Claimant can hold a registered keeper liable under the only applicable law.  Even if they are able to show that they issued a timely and fully compliant Notice to Keeper, there was a lack of 'adequate notice of the parking charge' which in itself is a mandatory prerequisite of POFA 2012 Schedule 4.


    6.     The only ‘clear’ sign, which is visible at the location, states that wheel clamping is in operation, is in breach of POFA 2012 section 54, where it became a criminal offence to, without lawful authority, immobilise a vehicle by attaching an immobilising device, such as a wheel clamp, or move or restrict the movement of a vehicle by any means, intending to prevent or inhibit its removal by, among others, the driver.


    Significant CPR breaches

     

    7.     Further and in the alternative, the claim form is defective, per CPR PD 16, 2.1: "The claim form must include an address (including the postcode) at which the claimant lives or carries on business, even if the claimant’s address for service is the business address of their solicitor."  A PO Box is not a valid registered company address, held HHJ Paul Matthews in Smith v Marston Holdings Ltd & Anor [2020] EW Misc 23 (CC).

     

    8.     The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form.  The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity.  The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and would have required proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3.  No such document has been served.

     

    9.     This Claimant must comply with the CPRs: they are legally represented and would be the first to accuse the Defendant of any slip in terms of compliance with court rules.  The Defendant believes that this, plus the fact that the interest has been improperly calculated on the entire claim - including the imaginary 'damages' - from the day of parking, as if the PCN was £165 that day (when in fact it was £55) should be more than sufficient abuse of process for the Claim to be struck out at allocation stage.

  • paddyposh
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    Is this good to submit now do we think?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Yes I think so.  :)
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