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  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    edited 8 December 2023 at 12:07AM
    RumRat said:
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    I wouldn't worry.

    Lucy Frazer was interviewed yesterday about the proposed massive rise in the licence fee (that Our Saviour Sunak is tipped to run his sword through and therefore deliver us from abject poverty- hooray, 3 cheers for Our Masters!!) and she was talking about recognising that "the way we consume media is changing".

    sounds like a "media licence" is coming, a quick bit of legislation and your ISP will have to snitch you up if any digital media goes to your address....
     :D She didn't even allude to such nonsense in the interview.
    Your ISP wouldn't necessarily know if any digital media was being received.
    If they ditch the license fee then the best options for them would be to go either the German way (every household is taxed an amount toward PSB's). Or, the Swedish system (Levy a tax to everyone over 18 who pays income tax)....

    Or the bbc simply starts showing ads just like every other channel and scrap the outdated and hated licence fee 

    Op - apologies for hijacking your thread 

    Op - the easiest way is to set up another email account such as google (I'm using account not address as I believe that is confusing you) using no identifiable info to set it up whatsoever and only using it to verify email accounts as and when you set up an account for anything 

    This way you also keep spam away from your main email account too
    Not sure I hate the fee more than the ads....Which is why I and many others pay for other services without them. Also the reason I record the other terrestrial channels, to fast forward through the ads.

    Ads make it free and like you say you can record and skip them - bit of a no brainer really (this is mse after all)

    Given how there's now only 4 odd channels out of hundred ish that don't show ads , it's hardly much of a change to how you view a channel if the BBC were to goto an ad model and you save £159 every year (again this is mse after all)
    https://youtu.be/UsdtyuSmoXs?feature=shared


    Ah just like every other channel that shows ads then!
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion............But, hope you get better soon...
    So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?

    Oh wait.......

    Not sure how you came to your conclusion.........But I hope you get better soon 
  • forgotmyname
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    How much of that stuff is farmed out to BBC Studio's now?

    Should the BBC be allowed to have channels that operate under the BBC name that shows adverts?

    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • RumRat
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    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    facade said:
    I wouldn't worry.

    Lucy Frazer was interviewed yesterday about the proposed massive rise in the licence fee (that Our Saviour Sunak is tipped to run his sword through and therefore deliver us from abject poverty- hooray, 3 cheers for Our Masters!!) and she was talking about recognising that "the way we consume media is changing".

    sounds like a "media licence" is coming, a quick bit of legislation and your ISP will have to snitch you up if any digital media goes to your address....
     :D She didn't even allude to such nonsense in the interview.
    Your ISP wouldn't necessarily know if any digital media was being received.
    If they ditch the license fee then the best options for them would be to go either the German way (every household is taxed an amount toward PSB's). Or, the Swedish system (Levy a tax to everyone over 18 who pays income tax)....

    Or the bbc simply starts showing ads just like every other channel and scrap the outdated and hated licence fee 

    Op - apologies for hijacking your thread 

    Op - the easiest way is to set up another email account such as google (I'm using account not address as I believe that is confusing you) using no identifiable info to set it up whatsoever and only using it to verify email accounts as and when you set up an account for anything 

    This way you also keep spam away from your main email account too
    Not sure I hate the fee more than the ads....Which is why I and many others pay for other services without them. Also the reason I record the other terrestrial channels, to fast forward through the ads.

    Ads make it free and like you say you can record and skip them - bit of a no brainer really (this is mse after all)

    Given how there's now only 4 odd channels out of hundred ish that don't show ads , it's hardly much of a change to how you view a channel if the BBC were to goto an ad model and you save £159 every year (again this is mse after all)
    https://youtu.be/UsdtyuSmoXs?feature=shared


    Ah just like every other channel that shows ads then!
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion............But, hope you get better soon...
    So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?

    Oh wait.......

    Not sure how you came to your conclusion.........But I hope you get better soon 
    I think you missed the point of the video....You get much much more than that from the BBC....Are you arguing with yourself??
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    facade said:
    I wouldn't worry.

    Lucy Frazer was interviewed yesterday about the proposed massive rise in the licence fee (that Our Saviour Sunak is tipped to run his sword through and therefore deliver us from abject poverty- hooray, 3 cheers for Our Masters!!) and she was talking about recognising that "the way we consume media is changing".

    sounds like a "media licence" is coming, a quick bit of legislation and your ISP will have to snitch you up if any digital media goes to your address....
     :D She didn't even allude to such nonsense in the interview.
    Your ISP wouldn't necessarily know if any digital media was being received.
    If they ditch the license fee then the best options for them would be to go either the German way (every household is taxed an amount toward PSB's). Or, the Swedish system (Levy a tax to everyone over 18 who pays income tax)....

    Or the bbc simply starts showing ads just like every other channel and scrap the outdated and hated licence fee 

    Op - apologies for hijacking your thread 

    Op - the easiest way is to set up another email account such as google (I'm using account not address as I believe that is confusing you) using no identifiable info to set it up whatsoever and only using it to verify email accounts as and when you set up an account for anything 

    This way you also keep spam away from your main email account too
    Not sure I hate the fee more than the ads....Which is why I and many others pay for other services without them. Also the reason I record the other terrestrial channels, to fast forward through the ads.

    Ads make it free and like you say you can record and skip them - bit of a no brainer really (this is mse after all)

    Given how there's now only 4 odd channels out of hundred ish that don't show ads , it's hardly much of a change to how you view a channel if the BBC were to goto an ad model and you save £159 every year (again this is mse after all)
    https://youtu.be/UsdtyuSmoXs?feature=shared


    Ah just like every other channel that shows ads then!
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion............But, hope you get better soon...
    So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?

    Oh wait.......

    Not sure how you came to your conclusion.........But I hope you get better soon 
    I think you missed the point of the video....You get much much more than that from the BBC....Are you arguing with yourself??
    No I got the point completely and no you don't by the way, do you work for the bbc?

    The only person determined to have an argument is you 
  • RumRat
    RumRat Posts: 5,009 Forumite
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    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    facade said:
    I wouldn't worry.

    Lucy Frazer was interviewed yesterday about the proposed massive rise in the licence fee (that Our Saviour Sunak is tipped to run his sword through and therefore deliver us from abject poverty- hooray, 3 cheers for Our Masters!!) and she was talking about recognising that "the way we consume media is changing".

    sounds like a "media licence" is coming, a quick bit of legislation and your ISP will have to snitch you up if any digital media goes to your address....
     :D She didn't even allude to such nonsense in the interview.
    Your ISP wouldn't necessarily know if any digital media was being received.
    If they ditch the license fee then the best options for them would be to go either the German way (every household is taxed an amount toward PSB's). Or, the Swedish system (Levy a tax to everyone over 18 who pays income tax)....

    Or the bbc simply starts showing ads just like every other channel and scrap the outdated and hated licence fee 

    Op - apologies for hijacking your thread 

    Op - the easiest way is to set up another email account such as google (I'm using account not address as I believe that is confusing you) using no identifiable info to set it up whatsoever and only using it to verify email accounts as and when you set up an account for anything 

    This way you also keep spam away from your main email account too
    Not sure I hate the fee more than the ads....Which is why I and many others pay for other services without them. Also the reason I record the other terrestrial channels, to fast forward through the ads.

    Ads make it free and like you say you can record and skip them - bit of a no brainer really (this is mse after all)

    Given how there's now only 4 odd channels out of hundred ish that don't show ads , it's hardly much of a change to how you view a channel if the BBC were to goto an ad model and you save £159 every year (again this is mse after all)
    https://youtu.be/UsdtyuSmoXs?feature=shared


    Ah just like every other channel that shows ads then!
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion............But, hope you get better soon...
    So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?

    Oh wait.......

    Not sure how you came to your conclusion.........But I hope you get better soon 
    I think you missed the point of the video....You get much much more than that from the BBC....Are you arguing with yourself??
    No I got the point completely and no you don't by the way, do you work for the bbc?

    The only person determined to have an argument is you 
    You didn't mention the Radio stations, you must have missed that bit of the video. There is of course their online presence including iPlayer etc. 
    I wasn't arguing with you, just correcting the error you made when you asked me this .. "So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?"
    I don't work for the BBC and never have. 
    All that said, I get both sides of the discussion, However, we'll always be paying for it, just the method to be sorted. 
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    cerebus said:
    RumRat said:
    facade said:
    I wouldn't worry.

    Lucy Frazer was interviewed yesterday about the proposed massive rise in the licence fee (that Our Saviour Sunak is tipped to run his sword through and therefore deliver us from abject poverty- hooray, 3 cheers for Our Masters!!) and she was talking about recognising that "the way we consume media is changing".

    sounds like a "media licence" is coming, a quick bit of legislation and your ISP will have to snitch you up if any digital media goes to your address....
     :D She didn't even allude to such nonsense in the interview.
    Your ISP wouldn't necessarily know if any digital media was being received.
    If they ditch the license fee then the best options for them would be to go either the German way (every household is taxed an amount toward PSB's). Or, the Swedish system (Levy a tax to everyone over 18 who pays income tax)....

    Or the bbc simply starts showing ads just like every other channel and scrap the outdated and hated licence fee 

    Op - apologies for hijacking your thread 

    Op - the easiest way is to set up another email account such as google (I'm using account not address as I believe that is confusing you) using no identifiable info to set it up whatsoever and only using it to verify email accounts as and when you set up an account for anything 

    This way you also keep spam away from your main email account too
    Not sure I hate the fee more than the ads....Which is why I and many others pay for other services without them. Also the reason I record the other terrestrial channels, to fast forward through the ads.

    Ads make it free and like you say you can record and skip them - bit of a no brainer really (this is mse after all)

    Given how there's now only 4 odd channels out of hundred ish that don't show ads , it's hardly much of a change to how you view a channel if the BBC were to goto an ad model and you save £159 every year (again this is mse after all)
    https://youtu.be/UsdtyuSmoXs?feature=shared


    Ah just like every other channel that shows ads then!
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion............But, hope you get better soon...
    So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?

    Oh wait.......

    Not sure how you came to your conclusion.........But I hope you get better soon 
    I think you missed the point of the video....You get much much more than that from the BBC....Are you arguing with yourself??
    No I got the point completely and no you don't by the way, do you work for the bbc?

    The only person determined to have an argument is you 
    You didn't mention the Radio stations, you must have missed that bit of the video. There is of course their online presence including iPlayer etc. 
    I wasn't arguing with you, just correcting the error you made when you asked me this .. "So you're telling me that the bbc only shows films, comedies,  politics, news, documentaries and soaps?"
    I don't work for the BBC and never have. 
    All that said, I get both sides of the discussion, However, we'll always be paying for it, just the method to be sorted. 
    I still don't get what you're trying to argue about?

    All non bbc radio adverts have ads and are free to listen to, in fact so are the bbc ones too as you don't need a TV licence to listen to the radio (pretty obvious really)

    In fact in case you didn't know you only need a tv licence if you watch shows as they are broadcast not if you watch catchup or on demand so that further restricts what you need a licence to watch 

    In fact if the population of Britain stopped watching live telly and simply watched things on catch up then we could force the bbcs hand to change to an ad model but I digress as that would never happen

    Bit like forcing fuel companies to drop their prices by simply only using the cheapest company until the other companies drop their prices below the cheapest then changing to another one until that company drops their prices and so on and so on until it is confirmed that the price is not inflated then going back to norm fuelling

    Oh and in case you missed what everybody else automatically got (you did) I couldn't be bothered to list every type of show the bbc makes or farms out to broadcasting companies as that would be ridiculous 


  • RumRat
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    Not sure who the everybody else is who automatically got whatever, but, it was you who asked the question, I just answered. 
    The rest of your post is irrelevant, showing you didn't even have the courtesy to read what I had said properly.
    Have a good weekend.... :)


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    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    :smile:

    FYI when somebody says everybody else it actually means everybody else except for you , which means of course means everybody else (except you) which read my post. I'm not how else I can explain it to you.

    If you require any further clarification what "everybody else" means then feel free to use Google or any search engine of your choice. Search engines are very good for this kind of thing.

    It's my weekend in work so I'm not sure you could say I'm having a good weekend but at least I'm being paid to reply to irrelevant posts which does brighten up my working weekend 
  • facade
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    As Sunak didn't save us from the huge rise, I'm going to join the other 400,000 people who won't pay the tax from April.

    The one or two programmes that I actually want to watch and the chance to watch ancient programmes on iplayer are not worth £169.50 to me.

    There are plenty of free streaming channels I can have on as background noise.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • RumRat
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    cerebus said:
    :smile:

    FYI when somebody says everybody else it actually means everybody else except for you , which means of course means everybody else (except you) which read my post. I'm not how else I can explain it to you.

    If you require any further clarification what "everybody else" means then feel free to use Google or any search engine of your choice. Search engines are very good for this kind of thing.

    It's my weekend in work so I'm not sure you could say I'm having a good weekend but at least I'm being paid to reply to irrelevant posts which does brighten up my working weekend 
    Thanks for the definition, nice of you to look it up. 
    Still not reading properly though are you? Not really sure why you are so insulting, but, if it's helping you get through the weekend, that's good.
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
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