Eon Next Demand Flexibility Scheme 2023

victor2

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

pete-20-11

victor2 said:

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

I think they’re trying to see just how willing people will be to do it for real, and how low the pricing could be. 

They only need to do it for real when there is too much demand and not enough clean energy available, e.g. dark, rainy, cold, non-windy days or a combination of a few of those. 

I think the previous guaranteed test price was actually more expensive than coal, so they need to get the price to an acceptable level. 

Swipe

Yep, bit of a pointless exercise. They have probably put most people off by now with the recent low payout sessions.

MeteredOut

victor2 said:

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

It not working for (some) consumers (because it's not paying enough) does not mean it's not working.

If the test is to determine the levels (£ and time) at which people will participate, I'd say it is working exactly as designed.

<typing in the dark so any mis-spellings are not my fault>

MWT

victor2 said:

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

This isn't about testing if people can change their use over a longer period, and it is not about prompting long term changes.

It is about figuring out if they can ask for, and get a specific reduction in a specified short window of time, with short notice, and to that extent the test is undoubtedly working...

victor2

MeteredOut said:

victor2 said:

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

It not working for (some) consumers (because it's not paying enough) does not mean it's not working.

If the test is to determine the levels (£ and time) at which people will participate, I'd say it is working exactly as designed.

<typing in the dark so any mis-spellings are not my fault>

Fair enough. Maybe the lack of participation by people and energy suppliers will give them the feedback they require.

spot1034

That's 10p I shall have to write off. 

Lorian

Another notification for today. Don't go spending the money in advance now.....

MultiFuelBurner

victor2 said:

MeteredOut said:

victor2 said:

This "test" system just doesn't work. What can your average person save in 30 minutes to make it worth the effort?
They should do longer periods, like 5-6pm every day for a week. People can then show willingness to change their lifestyle for a more meaningful reduction in energy costs.

It not working for (some) consumers (because it's not paying enough) does not mean it's not working.

If the test is to determine the levels (£ and time) at which people will participate, I'd say it is working exactly as designed.

<typing in the dark so any mis-spellings are not my fault>

Fair enough. Maybe the lack of participation by people and energy suppliers will give them the feedback they require.

You do seem to be a protagonist about the saving sessions this year? 

This was all pre ordained when the scheme was launched for this year and the late notice, bidding to capture what effect each has so that is what it's doing

It's not all about putting as much in people's pockets as possible just what is possible with the set parameters if the tests.

Lorian

I guess it may feel slightly different between customers in eon.next scheme and octopus. I'm not going back to check but I think the last three run as 'underpriced, rejected, rejected' for eon.next. wonder which it will be today :-)