Octopus saving sessions

MultiFuelBurner

born_again said:

Would be so nice if it was a simple. Do you want to take part single sign up & a message just advising when they are, rather than having to sign up to each one.

But how does that fit in with real life emergency, short notice requirements, which these events are supposed to replicate?

Would be nice if everyone understood what these events were trying to achieve and realise it's meant to be this way.

born_again

MultiFuelBurner said:

born_again said:

Would be so nice if it was a simple. Do you want to take part single sign up & a message just advising when they are, rather than having to sign up to each one.

But how does that fit in with real life emergency, short notice requirements, which these events are supposed to replicate?

Would be nice if everyone understood what these events were trying to achieve and realise it's meant to be this way.

But as people have pointed out. They are missing out on some as the current method of notification seems to be failing.
I have picked up more by people posting here, than by Whatsapp. So the idea of that is clearly failing as some are picking it up. Yet others have never received the message, me being one of them. 
Or just happening to log into my Octopus acc & spotting one. Yet nothing on Watsapp till hours later.

masonic

born_again said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

born_again said:

Would be so nice if it was a simple. Do you want to take part single sign up & a message just advising when they are, rather than having to sign up to each one.

But how does that fit in with real life emergency, short notice requirements, which these events are supposed to replicate?

Would be nice if everyone understood what these events were trying to achieve and realise it's meant to be this way.

But as people have pointed out. They are missing out on some as the current method of notification seems to be failing.
I have picked up more by people posting here, than by Whatsapp. So the idea of that is clearly failing as some are picking it up. Yet others have never received the message, me being one of them. 
Or just happening to log into my Octopus acc & spotting one. Yet nothing on Watsapp till hours later.

The live sessions have been well notified. The test sessions are designed to probe various scenarios of short notice and via different channels. The tests are failing to the extent that we are going direct to the DFS pages to learn of the sessions, whereas the assumption will be that we wait to hear from the suppliers. But I doubt the number of us finding out independently about the sessions is making a lot of difference to the number signing up nationally.

northernstar007

BellaBlondykeTheThird said:

Only received 8 octoplumps per spin so far. Never very lucky with these things.

i've been given 4  spins today, all 8pts but 1 was 800pts, i was 1 place off the 800000 would ave been nice

SuzeQStan

Interesting reading the DFS Utilisation Report summary showing what they required and what was generated over last years savings sessions. Only a couple on there that went above their requirement but a lot of close sessions as well 

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service/dfs_utilisation_report_summary

mmmmikey

SuzeQStan said:

Interesting reading the DFS Utilisation Report summary showing what they required and what was generated over last years savings sessions. Only a couple on there that went above their requirement but a lot of close sessions as well 

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service/dfs_utilisation_report_summary

Yes makes interesting reading. And it begs the question of who pays who what if Octopus (or any other supplier) bid for an amount of savings and their customers make less savings than expected. Or vice versa. Does anyone know how this works?

MeteredOut

mmmmikey said:

SuzeQStan said:

Interesting reading the DFS Utilisation Report summary showing what they required and what was generated over last years savings sessions. Only a couple on there that went above their requirement but a lot of close sessions as well 

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service/dfs_utilisation_report_summary

Yes makes interesting reading. And it begs the question of who pays who what if Octopus (or any other supplier) bid for an amount of savings and their customers make less savings than expected. Or vice versa. Does anyone know how this works?

Just get Ofgem to add it onto the standing charge

SuzeQStan

Old article but it does discuss plans around this years DFS savings sessions in addition to results from last year

https://www.carbonbrief.org/qa-how-great-britains-demand-flexibility-service-is-cutting-costs-and-co2-emissions/

masonic

mmmmikey said:

SuzeQStan said:

Interesting reading the DFS Utilisation Report summary showing what they required and what was generated over last years savings sessions. Only a couple on there that went above their requirement but a lot of close sessions as well 

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/data-portal/demand-flexibility-service/dfs_utilisation_report_summary

Yes makes interesting reading. And it begs the question of who pays who what if Octopus (or any other supplier) bid for an amount of savings and their customers make less savings than expected. Or vice versa. Does anyone know how this works?

I had assumed that the suppliers bid for an acceptance price in £/MWh for a target in MWh, which, if accepted gives them a payout for the number of MWh their customers save up to that limit. If their customers make no savings, they get nothing, and if their customers save an equal or greater amount than the number of MWh bid, they get the full proceeds of what they bid for and no more. Hence it would be more of a problem if customers make more savings than the supplier's total accepted MWh bids for any HH slot.

mmmmikey

On the face of it, Friday looks like a good day for another Saving Session:

https://emoncms.org/ukgrid

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