Octopus saving sessions

Slinky

I discharged 1.44kWh during the session, but stopped a bit short of the hour as the pricing for today wasn't available and I wasn't sure if I'd be caught out on pricing topping the batteries back up again. As it turned out I could have discharged for longer, but can't do anything about that now. Can't see me getting anywhere near the £70 we made last winter.

mmmmikey

Chrysalis said:

I got an email invite to one yesterday, which shows I am still on the system, the opt in is also different to what it was last year, now using a form, which might explain why they no longer notifying via the app.  My sleep was messed up yesterday, I was tired anyway when I seen the Agile rates for yesterday, so slept through most of the chaos pricing, so should be low usage for the session period.

Interesting to see this described as chaos pricing.

What we saw yesterday was just the industry working as it has always worked - essentially only using the most expensive sources of electricity when it needs to.

The saving sessions aren't an indication of anything untoward. They're just giving us, as consumers, an opportunity to lower our own bills and those of others by reducing the need to use the more expensive sources of electricity. In the days before smart meters we didn't have that opportunity and that's the fundamental change here. The operation of the industry may seem chaotic when you're first exposed to it, but actually it's a controlled process that has worked well for decades.

Or have I read too much into your choice of words, was this just a reference to highly volatile pricing?

debitcardmayhem

just been looking on agile thread, maybe a saving session tomorrow 

northernstar007

debitcardmayhem said:

just been looking on agile thread, maybe a saving session tomorrow 

theres nothing to save the avg usage is droping by the day at these prices, nowt left to give

debitcardmayhem

I will have, not on agile or tracker

masonic

northernstar007 said:

debitcardmayhem said:

just been looking on agile thread, maybe a saving session tomorrow 

theres nothing to save the avg usage is droping by the day at these prices, nowt left to give

Those on other tariffs (Flexible, Go, Cosy, a fix) will still be in the game.

Lorian

NESO asking for bids from 4pm to 7pm today

mmmmikey

masonic said:

northernstar007 said:

debitcardmayhem said:

just been looking on agile thread, maybe a saving session tomorrow 

theres nothing to save the avg usage is droping by the day at these prices, nowt left to give

Those on other tariffs (Flexible, Go, Cosy, a fix) will still be in the game.

.....as will anyone with a battery. Can't help thinking this scheme is on it's last legs, though. For it to be financially sustainable it needs to run at commercial rates, and those rates just aren't high enough to make it worth the effort for many folks. So IMHO the scheme needs to be re-positioned and re-marketed as "the right thing to do for the environment" rather than "a way to reduce your bills". Or maybe recognised as specialist and more targeted to battery owners and/or built in to selected tariffs?

Worth it for me as a battery owner. By tweaking a few settings (which takes seconds rather than minutes and can be done from a smart phone) the inconvenience is minimal and everyone's a winner. I help reduce the net load on the grid, which is what the scheme is designed to do, and in return save a couple of quid off my energy bill. But those of us with batteries are in a minority, and I suspect even where people do own batteries they're only using them to save solar energy for later use and not using the batteries to their full potential.

Poised and ready to participate again later today if it happens.....

matt_drummer

I have a lot of battery storage but won't export, whatever the reward (realistically)

They are for powering my house, not other peoples.

victor2

A genuine question for those with batteries (which I don't have)...

What is the likely increased cost in "wear and tear" for using your batteries to help meet grid demand? Will the reward more than compensate for that, or is it not a financial incentive, given the batteries are not exactly cheap to replace?