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  • LightFlare
    LightFlare Posts: 1,455 Forumite
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    WEASELL said:
    WEASELL said:
    you offer good advice.

    The camera in question is a ‘ tourist trap’ in Bournemouth. it literally traps people from all over the UK and the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad.
    It’s the main duel carriage way and there is a sudden change from 50 to 40 I didn’t observe. I did think I was driving at the correct speed. ( please people no need to post to tell me how deserving of this £230 +plus punishment I am).

    I post a photo showing over nine thousand people were punished by my camera last year. There are speed camera signs everywhere. I am certain missed that essential sign just like me.
    Do you mean attending courses remotely while on holiday or none UK residents ?

    If the 2nd - I would seriously question the accuracy of that
    I am sorry I don’t know. I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail.
    I can maybe understand why they were of the opinion that you weren't 100% engaged
  • WEASELL
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    edited 10 November 2023 at 4:34PM
    WEASELL said:
    WEASELL said:
    you offer good advice.

    The camera in question is a ‘ tourist trap’ in Bournemouth. it literally traps people from all over the UK and the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad.
    It’s the main duel carriage way and there is a sudden change from 50 to 40 I didn’t observe. I did think I was driving at the correct speed. ( please people no need to post to tell me how deserving of this £230 +plus punishment I am).

    I post a photo showing over nine thousand people were punished by my camera last year. There are speed camera signs everywhere. I am certain missed that essential sign just like me.
    Do you mean attending courses remotely while on holiday or none UK residents ?

    If the 2nd - I would seriously question the accuracy of that
    I am sorry I don’t know. I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail.
    I can maybe understand why they were of the opinion that you weren't 100% engaged
    It was a three hour course, and they did wait nearly a month to inform me there was a problem!
    I remember the jokes about a beach in Barbados! Please give me some points for that !
  • LightFlare
    LightFlare Posts: 1,455 Forumite
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    edited 10 November 2023 at 5:11PM
    3 points ? ;)

    Apologies - I think I misinterpreted what you said as you didnt recall them saying that as opposed to you did t recall them specifying the out of the UK part 
  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 36,979 Forumite
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    WEASELL said:
    I remember the jokes about a beach in Barbados! Please give me some points for that !
    Thought you were trying to avoid receiving points.... ;)
  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,219 Forumite
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    WEASELL said:

    The camera in question is a ‘ tourist trap’ in Bournemouth. it literally traps people from all over the UK and the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad.
    It’s the main duel carriage way and there is a sudden change from 50 to 40 I didn’t observe. I did think I was driving at the correct speed. ( please people no need to post to tell me how deserving of this £230 +plus punishment I am).

    I post a photo showing over nine thousand people were punished by my camera last year. There are speed camera signs everywhere. I am certain missed that essential sign just like me.
    Assuming the camera you refer to is the second in that list (A338 Wessex Way to Dean Park, Bournemouth, West bound) then the 9,000 NIPs are over three years and not one year, as the question says "combined three-year period 2020, 2021, and 2022".  It is impossible from that data to say how many were in each year.
  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,219 Forumite
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    WEASELL said:
    WEASELL said:
    you offer good advice.

    The camera in question is a ‘ tourist trap’ in Bournemouth. it literally traps people from all over the UK and the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad.
    It’s the main duel carriage way and there is a sudden change from 50 to 40 I didn’t observe. I did think I was driving at the correct speed. ( please people no need to post to tell me how deserving of this £230 +plus punishment I am).

    I post a photo showing over nine thousand people were punished by my camera last year. There are speed camera signs everywhere. I am certain missed that essential sign just like me.
    Do you mean attending courses remotely while on holiday or none UK residents ?

    If the 2nd - I would seriously question the accuracy of that
    I am sorry I don’t know. I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail.
    I can maybe understand why they were of the opinion that you weren't 100% engaged
    I think the OP is saying they can't recall as to whether the Tutor specified people attending while on holiday or whether non-UK residents.

    The OP recalls "the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad."
    It is quite likely that the detail of holiday or non-UK was never shared.  Hence why the OP does not know "I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail".  If the detail was not advised, the OP cannot recall it.
  • WEASELL
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    eskbanker said:
    WEASELL said:
    I remember the jokes about a beach in Barbados! Please give me some points for that !
    Thought you were trying to avoid receiving points.... ;)
    That it hilarious!
    Thank you for using your excellent sense of humour to cheer me up!
  • WEASELL
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    Herzlos said:
    Have you got a streetview link? I'm curious as to how badly sign posted it is, because if it is obscured somehow you've got a reasonable case of appealing the charge.
    Such a clever thought, thank you very much for your imput.
  • WEASELL
    WEASELL Posts: 39 Forumite
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    could it be here?



    if so then it is well signposted, and there is actually a roundabout in between the 40 and the next speed camera (which is also signposted), so you'd have to presumably slow down to an almost halt for the roundabout and then get up to 50 again in time for the camera.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@50.7290641,-1.861492,3a,75y,248.07h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxp2hfPwx9645dEbHksKTFg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
    So touched that you went to the time and trouble to think of this.
    I am very grateful.
  • WEASELL
    WEASELL Posts: 39 Forumite
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    WEASELL said:
    WEASELL said:
    you offer good advice.

    The camera in question is a ‘ tourist trap’ in Bournemouth. it literally traps people from all over the UK and the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad.
    It’s the main duel carriage way and there is a sudden change from 50 to 40 I didn’t observe. I did think I was driving at the correct speed. ( please people no need to post to tell me how deserving of this £230 +plus punishment I am).

    I post a photo showing over nine thousand people were punished by my camera last year. There are speed camera signs everywhere. I am certain missed that essential sign just like me.
    Do you mean attending courses remotely while on holiday or none UK residents ?

    If the 2nd - I would seriously question the accuracy of that
    I am sorry I don’t know. I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail.
    I can maybe understand why they were of the opinion that you weren't 100% engaged
    I think the OP is saying they can't recall as to whether the Tutor specified people attending while on holiday or whether non-UK residents.

    The OP recalls "the course leader actually mentioned people joining other courses from abroad."
    It is quite likely that the detail of holiday or non-UK was never shared.  Hence why the OP does not know "I don’t remember the course tutor telling us that detail".  If the detail was not advised, the OP cannot recall it.
    Thank you for @grumpy chap
    The fault will be mine!
    my commas sometimes jump into the wrong place!

    My gratitude to yourself and light flare for keeping me on track.
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