IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

I received a letter from the Civil National Business Centre from ParkingEye / DCB Legal

2456712

Comments

  • mohawk1
    mohawk1 Posts: 71 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 29 August 2023 at 4:39PM
    B789 said:
    mohawk1 said:


    2. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case.  The POC is devoid of any detail and even lacks specific breach allegation(s), making it very difficult to respond. However, it is admitted that the Defendant was the registered driver of the vehicle.

    ^ Edited to confirm I was the registered driver of the vehicle.


    There is no such thing as a "registered driver". In law, there is the Registered Keeper or the driver. The defendant can be one or both of those.
    Changed this to 'driver'
  • mohawk1
    mohawk1 Posts: 71 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 29 August 2023 at 5:08PM
    Additionally, I'd like to point out that while there is a specified date for the purported offense, there's no provided time or photographic evidence of the vehicle in the mentioned parking area.
  • B789
    B789 Posts: 3,441 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 29 August 2023 at 5:22PM
    Were you also the Registered Keeper? If so, state that as explained in the template defence:


  • mohawk1
    mohawk1 Posts: 71 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 29 August 2023 at 5:43PM
    B789 said:
    Were you also the Registered Keeper? If so, state that as explained in the template defence:



    Good spot. Thanks. I've just added this:

    The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case.  The POC is devoid of any detail and even lacks specific breach allegation(s), making it very difficult to respond. However, it is admitted that the Defendant was the driver and the registered keeper of the vehicle.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,826 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 29 August 2023 at 9:36PM
    "nor the intent of their sojourn therein."

    Put it in normal English or you will have a Judge spitting out his or her Earl Grey laughing!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Mohawk PM'd me about my own case and so I ended up looking at Mohawk's thread.  

    Correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm sure you will!!) but doesn't the absence of photographic evidence and the time of the alleged parking infringement blow ParkingEye / DCB Legal's case out of the water all by itself? 

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,826 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    ParkingEye have the ANPR images and in these cases no photos of actual parking are needed.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • ParkingEye have the ANPR images and in these cases no photos of actual parking are needed.
    That surprises me a bit (here I am taking up the cudgels on someone else's behalf!) - surely in that case there's no proof that the person actually parked in the car park as opposed to entering it, then turning round and driving straight out again.  And one would have thought that if ParkingEye have the ANPR images, these would be timestamped - and that the times would have been included in the PoC.  
  • mohawk1
    mohawk1 Posts: 71 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 30 August 2023 at 6:11PM
    Okay, I have made some changes to the statement. If this is ok, I can go ahead and edit the document and get it ready to be sent next week?

    2.) The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste incoherent and sparse statement of case.  The POC is devoid of any detail and even lacks specific breach allegation(s), making it very difficult to respond. However, it is admitted that the Defendant was the driver and the registered keeper of the vehicle.

    3.) The purported offence is said to have transpired in 2019. The defendant has no recollection of entering the car park at the specified location. Over the years, the defendant has not been presented with any correspondence from the claimant, nor has any photographic proof been presented. Additionally, the exact time of the alleged parking on the said date remains unspecified, further adding confusion to event.

    Thanks!
  • patient_dream
    patient_dream Posts: 3,932 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    You are aware that DCBL and ParkingEye joined hands and are now bed fellows.

    Both are on the BPA council of represenatives and that alone must ring bells as a cartel operation ?

    PARKING EYE v BEAVIS and the Supreme Court

    That case is as good now as it was then

    The Supreme Court ruled that the charge of £85 was in order as it included the cost of operating the scheme. It did not include the FAKE add-on's that DCBL apply ?

    Of course the scam BPA increased it to £100
    But the Supreme Court ruling remains the same, the amount includes the operation of the scheme
    IE: NO FAKE ADD-ON'S

    As said, PE do their own dirty work with court claims and it is clear that with old claims like yours, they pick up from the streets a robo claimer who is prepared to make a fool of themselves and become famous and become the UK's biggest court timewasters ever seen
    ENTER DCBL

    PE signs in car parks are on par with UKPC, unreadable, step ladder needed and binoculars
    If you can read them, back in 2019, they do not say FAKES WILL BE ADDED

    UKPC claims have been the laughing stock for DCBL and PE are following the same route

    SUCH FOOLS



Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.