New UC rules this September

noitsnotme

The user R200 sounds like that same poster who has been here under multiple accounts, all banned.  Exactly the same ranty posting style.

*edit* Yes it is the same poster.  Going on about their friend Charlie again in this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80158901#Comment_80158901

Last username was @Yellowsub2000 which was banned recently.

Don't waste your time here peeps.

R200

I can see many struggling families just not able to take on more hours they are already at the end of their tether.

They will keep explaining that to the job centre plus but they will be told they will have sanctions if they don’t show they are trying to work even more

People have to stay in the intensive work search group until their earnings reach the new minimum.

This means keep having to go to job centre and try to prove you are looking for better paid jobs or even more hours.


Just at a time when there are less jobs out there companies are laying off rather than taking on new.



it’s nothing to worry about though, this change just means most households will now have to visit the job centre for work focused interviews and show they are looking for even more work but just can’t find it due to the global crisis 

kaMelo

R200 said:

I can see many struggling families just not able to take on more hours they are already at the end of their tether.

They will keep explaining that to the job centre plus but they will be told they will have sanctions if they don’t show they are trying to work even more

People have to stay in the intensive work search group until their earnings reach the new minimum.

This means keep having to go to job centre and try to prove you are looking for better paid jobs or even more hours.


Just at a time when there are less jobs out there companies are laying off rather than taking on new.



it’s nothing to worry about though, this change just means most households will now have to visit the job centre for work focused interviews and show they are looking for even more work but just can’t find it due to the global crisis 

Although down from a peak of 1.3 million a year ago there are still over 1 million unfilled vacancies in the UK.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/jobsandvacanciesintheuk/latest#vacancies-for-march-to-may-2023

There is a productivity problem in the UK, per capita we produce less than the average of G7 nations and way behind countries like the US, France and Germany. The Government have decided that those who are fit and able but asking for state help need to help themselves first by working more  Not an unreasonable position to take. By filling the vacancies it will not only improve their own financial situation it will hopefully boost the productivity figures and improve GDP growth too.

Many millions of families have two parents who work full time, they manage to juggle work, childcare, school holidays and all the other things that families do without asking for state help to stay at home more.

R200

I still don’t know how anyone with schoolchildren can have both parents working full time?

who does the school run in the morning and afternoon?

elsien

OP is just repeating themselves now. Yet again. 

He’s not interested in how people do it, he just wants to complain that he might have to in the future.

kaMelo

R200 said:

I still don’t know how anyone with schoolchildren can have both parents working full time?

who does the school run in the morning and afternoon?

One drops off, the other picks up, alternate shifts, early/late starts, weekends, nights,  Outside of that there are after school clubs, agreements with the parents of your children's friends at school to pick up each others children some days plus many others ways I'm sure.

Then there are paid childcare options, UC will reimburse 85% of childcare costs up to a maximum of £1,630.15 for 2 or more children, tax free childcare for those not eligible for UC plus up to 30 hours free childcare provided by the Government.

It's a juggle and requires effort but people find a way because they have to. I'm sure many of those people would love to reduce their hours and receive a Government top up to cover the shortfall instead. But the direction of travel is clear, if you're fit and healthy and want to be a stay at home parent you better be able to fund it yourself as you cannot expect the state to fund that choice.

R200

kaMelo said:

R200 said:

I still don’t know how anyone with schoolchildren can have both parents working full time?

who does the school run in the morning and afternoon?

One drops off, the other picks up, alternate shifts, early/late starts, weekends, nights,  Outside of that there are after school clubs, agreements with the parents of your children's friends at school to pick up each others children some days plus many others ways I'm sure.

Then there are paid childcare options, UC will reimburse 85% of childcare costs up to a maximum of £1,630.15 for 2 or more children, tax free childcare for those not eligible for UC plus up to 30 hours free childcare provided by the Government.

It's a juggle and requires effort but people find a way because they have to. I'm sure many of those people would love to reduce their hours and receive a Government top up to cover the shortfall instead. But the direction of travel is clear, if you're fit and healthy and want to be a stay at home parent you better be able to fund it yourself as you cannot expect the state to fund that choice.

It’s obvious some on here dot like talking about this but I don’t mind talking about the fact that this is messed up.

Real parents should spend time with their real children.

Something is wrong with society if children are always in child care and both parents are always working.


Im just trying to work out what is different to our parents and grandparents? It’s more than just saying inflation and cost of living crisis 

HillStreetBlues

kaMelo said:

R200 said:

I still don’t know how anyone with schoolchildren can have both parents working full time?

who does the school run in the morning and afternoon?

One drops off, the other picks up, alternate shifts, early/late starts, weekends, nights,  Outside of that there are after school clubs, agreements with the parents of your children's friends at school to pick up each others children some days plus many others ways I'm sure.

Then there are paid childcare options, UC will reimburse 85% of childcare costs up to a maximum of £1,630.15 for 2 or more children, tax free childcare for those not eligible for UC plus up to 30 hours free childcare provided by the Government.

It's a juggle and requires effort but people find a way because they have to. I'm sure many of those people would love to reduce their hours and receive a Government top up to cover the shortfall instead. But the direction of travel is clear, if you're fit and healthy and want to be a stay at home parent you better be able to fund it yourself as you cannot expect the state to fund that choice.

How does childcare cost work under UC with the  max of £1630.15?

Would it be a person could work minimum wage for 35 hours a week (£1580.36) and then that person could get £1630.15 to cover their childcare costs (more than they actually earnt)?

Or is there no UC due to earnings?

tomtom256

R200 said:

It’s obvious some on here dot like talking about this but I don’t mind talking about the fact that this is messed up.

Real parents should spend time with their real children.

Something is wrong with society if children are always in child care and both parents are always working.


Im just trying to work out what is different to our parents and grandparents? It’s more than just saying inflation and cost of living crisis 

Nobody is stopping real parents having time with their real children, I mean nobody is going to spend time with their fake children, right.

However the government, will not fund that lifestyle for you, end off. Not really anything more you can add, you want benefits, you have to meet the conditions of entitlement, fail to do so and face a sanction, unless you have a good reason or meet any of the criteria for not having to look for work etc.

poppy12345

My advice is don't continue to feed the troll. Report and move on.