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R200
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edited 10 July 2023 at 10:15AM in Benefits & tax credits
If someone is on soft touch now earning about £1000 as a couple, 3 x 8 hour days

what will happen after the tiles change this September?

will they say we have to work more?
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  • R200
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    I didn’t understand it says 35 hours or something after September 
  • R200
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    We earn less than 35hrs min wage so what will happen come September?

    will it mean coming off soft touch and having to go to job centres showing we are loooking for more work?
  • calcotti
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    As I understand it the AET will be assessed individually and each claimant will need to be earning 18 x NMW to remain in the Light Touch
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spring-budget-2023-labour-market-factsheet/spring-budget-2023-factsheet-labour-market-measures
    Even if in the Light Touch more be expected of the claimants than existing.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • R200
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    Thanks Calcotti

    so we just don’t know what it will mean come September 

    I guess we will only know when we get notified by UC
  • R200
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     The couples AET, where a second member of a household may not be asked to look for work if their partner is working, will be removed entirely.”

    What does this mean? I thought it didn’t matter if one or both in a couple met the min hours?
  • calcotti
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    edited 6 July 2023 at 6:32PM
    R200 said:
    “ The couples AET, where a second member of a household may not be asked to look for work if their partner is working, will be removed entirely.”

    What does this mean? I thought it didn’t matter if one or both in a couple met the min hours?
    As advised in my previous post, from Sept each person will be assessed separately for AET. Therefore a claimant cannot be put on Light Touch based on the hours the partner does. The existing arrangement that it doesn’t matter who does the work is being removed. Each person goes earn 18 NMW.

    All the above is what has been said but does not yet been regulated for
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • R200
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    calcotti said:
    R200 said:
    “ The couples AET, where a second member of a household may not be asked to look for work if their partner is working, will be removed entirely.”

    What does this mean? I thought it didn’t matter if one or both in a couple met the min hours?
    As advised in my previous post, from Sept each person will be assessed separately for AET. Therefore a claimant cannot be put on Light Touch based on the hours the partner does.
    So some housewives may be pushed into work?
  • poppy12345
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    R200 said:
    calcotti said:
    R200 said:
    “ The couples AET, where a second member of a household may not be asked to look for work if their partner is working, will be removed entirely.”

    What does this mean? I thought it didn’t matter if one or both in a couple met the min hours?
    As advised in my previous post, from Sept each person will be assessed separately for AET. Therefore a claimant cannot be put on Light Touch based on the hours the partner does.
    So some housewives may be pushed into work?

    Yes based on what's been said so far.
  • September 2023 - Increased conditionality whereby a person in light touch, earning above AET but below CET will be required to go to job centre appointments (for partners the 1 not working i believe its work focused stuff). This is a phased approach/ie slow roll out as its Big!

    comments on here about AET etc. no one knows when will increase. The coupls AET is not “costed” to happen till 2024 financial year and the 15-18 hours AET depends upon a deliverability assessment so is also not set in stone on when it happens or possibly if it happens at all.
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