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Why are people so disparaging about IHDs?

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  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Another reason is do they ,if the rate is correct on the meters, include the VAT rate of the day
    For me, yes, VAT is included, and contrary to many here, my IHD has always been correct on usage (kWh) and cost including usage, standing charge and VAT at 5%.

    Not sure what you mean by VAT rate of the day though. 

    Who knows where the treasury will go next
    There would be mass rebellion if they increased the 5% retail energy VAT rate.  :)
    Who  said increase? 2.5% would get a lame duck government a lot of votes >:)

    Reducing taxes hadn't even entered my mind.

    Is that even a thing now?  :D
    Only if you're rich ;)
  • debitcardmayhem
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    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Another reason is do they ,if the rate is correct on the meters, include the VAT rate of the day
    For me, yes, VAT is included, and contrary to many here, my IHD has always been correct on usage (kWh) and cost including usage, standing charge and VAT at 5%.

    Not sure what you mean by VAT rate of the day though. 

    Who knows where the treasury will go next
    There would be mass rebellion if they increased the 5% retail energy VAT rate.  :)
    Who  said increase? 2.5% would get a lame duck government a lot of votes >:)

    Reducing taxes hadn't even entered my mind.

    Is that even a thing now?  :D
    Only if you're rich ;)

    Surely the definition of paying tax does not apply to the rich :o
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  • RG2015
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    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Another reason is do they ,if the rate is correct on the meters, include the VAT rate of the day
    For me, yes, VAT is included, and contrary to many here, my IHD has always been correct on usage (kWh) and cost including usage, standing charge and VAT at 5%.

    Not sure what you mean by VAT rate of the day though. 

    Who knows where the treasury will go next
    There would be mass rebellion if they increased the 5% retail energy VAT rate.  :)
    Who  said increase? 2.5% would get a lame duck government a lot of votes >:)

    Reducing taxes hadn't even entered my mind.

    Is that even a thing now?  :D
    Only if you're rich ;)

    Surely the definition of paying tax does not apply to the rich :o
    But this government could still reduce the level of tax they ought to be paying before they squirrelled it away offshore.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Another reason is do they ,if the rate is correct on the meters, include the VAT rate of the day
    For me, yes, VAT is included, and contrary to many here, my IHD has always been correct on usage (kWh) and cost including usage, standing charge and VAT at 5%.

    Not sure what you mean by VAT rate of the day though. 

    Who knows where the treasury will go next
    There would be mass rebellion if they increased the 5% retail energy VAT rate.  :)
    Who  said increase? 2.5% would get a lame duck government a lot of votes >:)

    Reducing taxes hadn't even entered my mind.

    Is that even a thing now?  :D
    Only if you're rich ;)

    Surely the definition of paying tax does not apply to the rich :o
    But this government could still reduce the level of tax they ought to be paying before they squirrelled it away offshore.

    Back on topic the government doesn't trust it's IHD. they are stuck in a Loop not very Bright and no, no-one in HMG is called Hugo !!
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  • dealyboy
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  • Sea_Shell
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    edited 4 May 2023 at 11:08AM
    Swipe said:
    Sea_Shell said:
    Well, after nearly 2 weeks on the default tariff and no change to our Eon (Chameleon) IHD, I tried a reboot, by turning it off and then taking it to the meter cabinet and switching it back on.  I also left it in the cabinet for about 15 mins.

    Came back and....no change ☹️

    Maybe it needs overnight?
    I'd call Eon and ask them to raise a request with the smart meter team to push out your default tariff info to your meter

    I've emailed them, and they've responded (within hours!) by saying they'll ask the meter team to push the update through.

    It should then update overnight.
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.60% of current retirement "pot" (as at end May 2025)
  • Sea_Shell
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    Just looked...and it appears to have updated now.   Well the gas definitely has, as that's an obvious difference. (I didn't have all the figures to hand)

    So, if anyone's with Eon and their IHD rates aren't right, drop them a quick email.
    How's it going, AKA, Nutwatch? - 12 month spends to date = 2.60% of current retirement "pot" (as at end May 2025)
  • Sea_Shell said:
    Just looked...and it appears to have updated now.   Well the gas definitely has, as that's an obvious difference. (I didn't have all the figures to hand)

    So, if anyone's with Eon and their IHD rates aren't right, drop them a quick email.
    If E.oN Next is running fortnightly smart meter health checks like Octopus, there shouldn’t be any need to email them:


  • debitcardmayhem
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 8:41PM
    Sea_Shell said:
    Just looked...and it appears to have updated now.   Well the gas definitely has, as that's an obvious difference. (I didn't have all the figures to hand)

    So, if anyone's with Eon and their IHD rates aren't right, drop them a quick email.
    If E.oN Next is running fortnightly smart meter health checks like Octopus, there shouldn’t be any need to email them:


    @[Deleted User] where do you find that on Octopus ?
    4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 25 October 2023 at 8:41PM
    Sea_Shell said:
    Just looked...and it appears to have updated now.   Well the gas definitely has, as that's an obvious difference. (I didn't have all the figures to hand)

    So, if anyone's with Eon and their IHD rates aren't right, drop them a quick email.
    If E.oN Next is running fortnightly smart meter health checks like Octopus, there shouldn’t be any need to email them:


    @[Deleted User] where do you find that on Octopus ?
    You don’t - sadly. 
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