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LBG closing all my accounts on 18th May

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  • WillPS
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    Highly suspect this check's timing was a coincidence, but lets see what is said.
  • Bridlington1
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    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    @speculator ... It's unlikely all Al Rayan customers will be searched, and then all have their LBG accounts closed down. Let's wait to hear back from @bridlington1 first, they are being very open about this.

    If anyone wants to close their Al Rayan accounts, it's your choice, but it feels unlikely this will have a blanket effect across their whole customer base. I disagree with it being 'a good idea' at this stage.
    I'm keeping Al Rayan as it's often had a market leading interest rate.

    Besides if they suspect me of fraud/been the victim of fraud they will likely close my account for me and return my 1p balance. so there seems little point closing it. 

    I shall ring them tomorrow morning as I won't be home till after the lines close today so shall post in this thread with any updates then.
  • MikeJXE
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    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    I suspect we may be in danger of crossing the line into hysteria here.
    Lol I think that bridge was crossed some time ago 
  • Band7
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    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    I suspect we may be in danger of crossing the line into hysteria here.
    Like you, I will keep my Al Rayan accounts.

    As to why they searched you: I would say a search is completely harmless. All banks can search CIFAS - it's the only way for them to find out whether you have a marker for fraud committed by yourself, as these don't show on the credit reference files. Did you apply for an Al Rayan account on March 13?



  • Ed-1
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    edited 23 March 2023 at 6:05PM
    Band7 said:
    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    I suspect we may be in danger of crossing the line into hysteria here.
    Like you, I will keep my Al Rayan accounts.

    As to why they searched you: I would say a search is completely harmless. All banks can search CIFAS - it's the only way for them to find out whether you have a marker for fraud committed by yourself, as these don't show on the credit reference files. Did you apply for an Al Rayan account on March 13?



    Just to be clear - all CIFAS markers show to lenders on CRAs, just not to consumers.
  • Bridlington1
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    Band7 said:
    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    I suspect we may be in danger of crossing the line into hysteria here.
    Like you, I will keep my Al Rayan accounts.

    As to why they searched you: I would say a search is completely harmless. All banks can search CIFAS - it's the only way for them to find out whether you have a marker for fraud committed by yourself, as these don't show on the credit reference files. Did you apply for an Al Rayan account on March 13?



    I have only ever applied for one Al Rayan account in my entire life and that was their everyday saver that I opened in August 2022. I deposited £5k in it and then built the deposit up to around £13.5k in October, at which point I emptied it because Santander brought out their 2.75% saver. I then emptied Santander into it later that month once the rate hit 2.81% (around £20k) before withdrawing most of it a few weeks later when Virgin brought out the 3% EA cash ISA. The remaining funds barring 1p were emptied out later in November and barring withdrawing £24.66 profit on 1/12 I haven't used the account since.

    As a result I am slightly baffled as to why Al Rayan chose to do a cifa search on me last week as it just seems quite random.
  • Bridlington1
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    For the sake of clarity here is the first page of the DSAR from Cifas, the rest just went on about what a Cifa is and how I can complain about my record etc.


  • Speculator
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    edited 23 March 2023 at 7:45PM
    Band7 said:
    If anyone has an Al Rayan account, it might be a good idea to close it asap, especially if you have accounts with Lloyds/BOS/Halifax.

    I suspect we may be in danger of crossing the line into hysteria here.
    Like you, I will keep my Al Rayan accounts.

    As to why they searched you: I would say a search is completely harmless. All banks can search CIFAS - it's the only way for them to find out whether you have a marker for fraud committed by yourself, as these don't show on the credit reference files. Did you apply for an Al Rayan account on March 13?



    I have only ever applied for one Al Rayan account in my entire life and that was their everyday saver that I opened in August 2022. I deposited £5k in it and then built the deposit up to around £13.5k in October, at which point I emptied it because Santander brought out their 2.75% saver. I then emptied Santander into it later that month once the rate hit 2.81% (around £20k) before withdrawing most of it a few weeks later when Virgin brought out the 3% EA cash ISA. The remaining funds barring 1p were emptied out later in November and barring withdrawing £24.66 profit on 1/12 I haven't used the account since.

    As a result I am slightly baffled as to why Al Rayan chose to do a cifa search on me last week as it just seems quite random.
    Just normal transactions I do every month. Wouldn't trust any Bank or Building society who decide to do a cifas search based on those transactions.
  • pecunianonolet
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    Similar to @Bridlington1 I have also inquiered to CIFAS. I also have an account with Al Ryan, similar pattern as mentioned before re transactions. Let's see if I have a search by them too, when the documents arrive. Since saving accounts are not reported to CRA's there is no need to panic in my opinion. 
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