Octopus Agile

NedS

freehugs_2 said:

Good chance of negative pricing on Tuesday next week - widespread strong winds looking likely. Stock piling the washing etc. 

I'm not seeing any indication of negative pricing next week on the sites I'm following, although prices do look like they may dip a bit in the early hours of Wed morning.

bristolleedsfan

Telegraph_Sam said:

Swings & roundabouts -  does the negative pricing compensate for the positive overall?

30 days to 11th November -  Total consumption 186.0kWh @ 10.62p/kWh † £19.75 ) + VAT

I am taking a break from clock watching, off to Scottish Power for 90 days via  £50 per fuel welcome back offer, works well for very low user.

Newbie_John

I wish Agile had 3h window between 2-5am that prices were rate -12p so even on bad days there is a good slot somewhere. That would have definitely kept me for longer.

Pat38493

NedS said:

freehugs_2 said:

Good chance of negative pricing on Tuesday next week - widespread strong winds looking likely. Stock piling the washing etc. 

I'm not seeing any indication of negative pricing next week on the sites I'm following, although prices do look like they may dip a bit in the early hours of Wed morning.

not sure which sites you mean?  Generally what I have seen tends to work with general averages for the time of year until they start to get results of short term auctions which is only a day or two earlier - not sure if they adjust for expected high winds which are 4-5 days out as the forecast can easily change in that time.

Looks like Agile prices in the early hours of Saturday morning will be significantly lower than they have been for the last 10 days or so (but still above 15p) - the forecast is for the overall daily wind generation to be significantly higher from Sunday onwards.  We have been relatively becalmed for a couple of weeks.  Gas price is also very high at the moment which won't help either.

Spies

No chance of negative on Tuesday so don't hold your breath

Newbie_John

Spies said:

No chance of negative on Tuesday so don't hold your breath

There's always a chance, although this time close to 0.000001%

Oscarmax

I have put in a request with Octopus to change from Agile to Go, Octopus now allow Outgoing Export 15 pence kWh with the Go 8.5 pence (00.30 - 04.30) tariff.

We import just under 2900 kWh, charging the PHEV 1790 kWh, battery approximately 700 kWh leaving approximately 410 at peak 25 pence kWh.

We are leaving the gas on tracker.

Spies

Oscarmax said:

I have put in a request with Octopus to change from Agile to Go, Octopus now allow Outgoing Export 15 pence kWh with the Go 8.5 pence (00.30 - 04.30) tariff.

We import just under 2900 kWh, charging the PHEV 1790 kWh, battery approximately 700 kWh leaving approximately 410 at peak 25 pence kWh.

We are leaving the gas on tracker.

Shame your car or charger isn't compatible for Intelligent Go

Telegraph_Sam

I'm guessing that other Dec 23 Trackers apart from myself will be monitoring via Compare our current deal vs Agile April 2024 ( the most obvious alternative?). In my case (North  East) Tracker Dec 23 seems to be better for all time periods, without any deliberate load shifting. I would not have expected this, perhaps the next few days will bring a short term reversal. Tracker Oct 2024 will no doubt be different but as things stand I am reluctant to make a change to something more costly until I have to (Feb 2025). 
This ignores the Octopus SEG Export contribution I assume.

Any other forum views on this?

I'm not sure if splitting off gas to a non-Tracker Dec 23 tariff might not cause complications.

Edit: This should have been posted to the Tracker forum but I don't know if there's a smart way of doing this retrospectively 

NedS

Pat38493 said:

NedS said:

freehugs_2 said:

Good chance of negative pricing on Tuesday next week - widespread strong winds looking likely. Stock piling the washing etc. 

I'm not seeing any indication of negative pricing next week on the sites I'm following, although prices do look like they may dip a bit in the early hours of Wed morning.

not sure which sites you mean?  Generally what I have seen tends to work with general averages for the time of year until they start to get results of short term auctions which is only a day or two earlier - not sure if they adjust for expected high winds which are 4-5 days out as the forecast can easily change in that time.

Looks like Agile prices in the early hours of Saturday morning will be significantly lower than they have been for the last 10 days or so (but still above 15p) - the forecast is for the overall daily wind generation to be significantly higher from Sunday onwards.  We have been relatively becalmed for a couple of weeks.  Gas price is also very high at the moment which won't help either.

These two sites are fairly accurate at predicting wind and solar generation on the grid, and resulting Agile pricing in the case of Agile Predict website:

http://emoncms.org/ukgrid

https://prices.fly.dev/K/