UC Managed Migration

andrewmp

ElwoodBlues said:

I'm currently receiving child tax credits and just received a letter from UC giving a UC migration notice - I have to apply for UC by mid May apparently. I know the plan was to migrate everyone by 2024, but thought HMRC/DWP were running behind schedule with it? I was aware of pilot migrations taking place previously, but not heard of any new areas being added recently? So have I got caught up in the full rollout, anyone else received these letters yet?

I'm dreading being moved onto UC as it sounds horrendously complicated in my circumstances (director of small ltd company).

Which area do you live in?  

ElwoodBlues

poppy12345 said:

andrewmp said:

When did they start moving other areas outside the pilot areas?  I thought they were sticking with certain areas for now?

Managed migration has started in all areas, it was some time last year. It will be anytime up until end of 2024. (unless it's extended) The only exception to this are those that are claiming Income Related ESA who won't be migrated across until at least 2024 (unles they're also claiming tax credits)

Everything I'd seen online was that they were still doing pilots in specific areas, migrating small numbers to test and develop the process, and that they hadn't got as far as wider, mass rollout?

ElwoodBlues

andrewmp said:

Which area do you live in?  

Cornwall, but no where near Truro or Falmouth.

andrewmp

ElwoodBlues said:

poppy12345 said:

andrewmp said:

When did they start moving other areas outside the pilot areas?  I thought they were sticking with certain areas for now?

Managed migration has started in all areas, it was some time last year. It will be anytime up until end of 2024. (unless it's extended) The only exception to this are those that are claiming Income Related ESA who won't be migrated across until at least 2024 (unles they're also claiming tax credits)

Everything I'd seen online was that they were still doing pilots in specific areas, migrating small numbers to test and develop the process, and that they hadn't got as far as wider, mass rollout?

That was definitely the case as of January.

From memory the areas are Bolton, Medway, Northumberland, Cornwall, and Harrow.

andrewmp

ElwoodBlues said:

andrewmp said:

Which area do you live in?  

Cornwall, but no where near Truro or Falmouth.

I heard they were going to move out from the initial areas into neighbouring areas once they ran out of tax credit only claimants in the discovery area.  I'm guessing that's what happened there.

poppy12345

Just found this.. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-credits-and-some-benefits-are-ending-claim-universal-credit Apologise, my advice that it's all areas was incorrect. Can't find anything else to suggest it's other areas.

This guidance is only for people who live in one of the following areas and receive a letter from DWP advising them to claim Universal Credit:

• Bolton
• Falmouth
• Harrow
• Medway
• Northumberland
• Truro

andrewmp

poppy12345 said:

Just found this.. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/tax-credits-and-some-benefits-are-ending-claim-universal-credit Apologise, my advice that it's all areas was incorrect. Can't find anything else to suggest it's other areas.

This guidance is only for people who live in one of the following areas and receive a letter from DWP advising them to claim Universal Credit:

• Bolton
• Falmouth
• Harrow
• Medway
• Northumberland
• Truro

Yep.  As the OP is not in Falmouth or Truro, they must have ran out of TC only claimants and moved to neighbouring areas.

calcotti

poppy12345 said: The only exception to this are those that are claiming Income Related ESA who won't be migrated across until at least 2024 (unles they're also claiming tax credits) 

2028.   

Although managed migration has nominally started everywhere I think they are still only working in selected areas.

andrewmp

From December stakeholder meeting:

Q:When likely to expand out of current discovery areas

A: Might run out of TC only claimants

in very small areas soon so might spread out a bit further afield in same LAs eg cornwall

and northumberland - maybe Feb/March expand further possibly

OhWow

andrewmp said:

poppy12345 said:

andrewmp said:

When did they start moving other areas outside the pilot areas?  I thought they were sticking with certain areas for now?

Managed migration has started in all areas, it was some time last year. It will be anytime up until end of 2024. (unless it's extended) The only exception to this are those that are claiming Income Related ESA who won't be migrated across until at least 2024 (unles they're also claiming tax credits)

I know as of January they were still working within the discovery areas, so that's definitely not correct.

Maybe something changed since then.

Does this help?

"The Government remains committed to completing the Move to UC. By the end of 2024/25 we will have completed the moves of all legacy cases with tax credits (including those on both ESA and tax credits), all cases on Income Support (IS) and Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and all Housing Benefit (HB) only cases.

That will allow HMRC to close down the tax credit system for those of working age and DWP to close down IS and JSA – generating savings for taxpayers. As part of that plan, in 2023/24 we plan to move cases that are solely in receipt of working tax credit and/or child tax credit, with the remaining tax credit cases (which also receive DWP benefits) and IS, HB and JSA in 2024/25. In the early part of 2023/24, we will be testing our ability to scale the approach that has been developed during Discovery and we will continue to learn and refine the process to ensure as many claimants as possible safely transition to UC."

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/completing-the-move-to-universal-credit-learning-from-the-discovery-phase/completing-the-move-to-universal-credit-learning-from-the-discovery-phase#next-steps