Letter of Claim from DCB Legal - PCN dated 2019

Coupon-mad

Just a parking charge notice.  UKPC don't issue penalties.

You realise how this will play out?

- court claim in March for c£300
- you defend using our template
- DCBLegal pretend to want to proceed
- you follow our advice & meet deadlines
- DCBLegal will ring or write offering a cheaper settlement
- you ignore that or say "no"
- DCBLegal will discontinue.  Scam over!

anotheronewasted

Coupon-mad said:

Just a parking charge notice.  UKPC don't issue penalties.

You realise how this will play out?

- court claim in March for c£300
- you defend using our template
- DCBLegal pretend to want to proceed
- you follow our advice & meet deadlines
- DCBLegal will ring or write offering a cheaper settlement
- you ignore that or say "no"
- DCBLegal will discontinue.  Scam over!

I have read many threads, and digested it all as best I can, and your summary is pretty much what I had in mind...I was hoping for it to be discontinued early in truth.

I have a defense drafted out already to be honest (based on the template). My intention was to request the extension to DCBLegal at the last minute, more to be a pain and delay the process.

Is it worth doing this?
Or should I just let the 30 days expire, and wait for DCBs next move?

Le_Kirk

As stated by @Coupon-mad it is a Parking Charge Notice and there is a difference but since you have been given chapter and verse, you don't need to worry abut the difference.

Coupon-mad

Timing depends on what best suits you.

A claim arriving in March so you can crack on with it sooner?  Or a delay and a claim arriving in April or May?

anotheronewasted

Le_Kirk said:

As stated by @Coupon-mad it is a Parking Charge Notice and there is a difference but since you have been given chapter and verse, you don't need to worry abut the difference.

What do you mean?
As in the wording of the NtK? That's only half, there's another page full of spiel.

Coupon-mad said:

Timing depends on what best suits you.

A claim arriving in March so you can crack on with it sooner?  Or a delay and a claim arriving in April or May?

Yeah, I figured as much. I just wasn't sure if the denying and asking for an extension was necessary, to help my claim / defence.
If it makes no difference, I'll more than likely just wait for their next move. Can't be bothered with it lingering for longer than is absolutely necessary

Thanks guys

Coupon-mad

But you ARE expected to respond to a LBC.  We are not saying don't respond at all.

Whether you want it put 'on hold' or not you should be setting out the areas of dispute.  The court expects parties to narrow the issues and try to resolve the dispute.  Play the game...

Le_Kirk

anotheronewasted said:

Le_Kirk said:

As stated by @Coupon-mad it is a Parking Charge Notice and there is a difference but since you have been given chapter and verse, you don't need to worry about the difference.

What do you mean?
As in the wording of the NtK? That's only half, there's another page full of spiel.

No, the difference between PENALTY Charge Notice and PARKING Charge Notice.

anotheronewasted

Coupon-mad said:

But you ARE expected to respond to a LBC.  We are not saying don't respond at all.

Whether you want it put 'on hold' or not you should be setting out the areas of dispute.  The court expects parties to narrow the issues and try to resolve the dispute.  Play the game...

OK, understood,
So I will more than likely contact DCBLegal with the following, removing the request for a 30 day extension.

Ref. <redacted>

I wrtite this mail in refernce to a letter received 20.01.2023.

The letter is dated 16 January 2023

Your ref. <redacted>

Titled "Letter of Claim"

This letter pertains to an alleged PCN (Parking CHARGE Notice)

PCN ref. <redacted>, issued on 20.07.2019

The reason quoted as "Parked for longer than the maximum period permitted"

Due to the lack of information contained with your letter, i am unable to verify this.

Therefore i cannot accept any alleged debt, and so will be seeking debt / legal adivce.

For this reason i ask that the case be put on hold for not less than 30 days, under the Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims 2017

In parallel to this I have submitted an SAR request to your client, UK Parking Control Limited.

Please confirm that this email has been received, read and understood.

And that my free request as stated above is upheld.

Yours Faithfully

Le_Kirk said:

No, the difference between PENALTY Charge Notice and PARKING Charge Notice.

Ah OK, the NtF received in the SAR response refers to a Parking Charge, as do the letters from the multiple debt collecting firms.
I have changed Penalty Charge Notice to Parking Charge Notice

Is what I am saying sensible / coherent enough?

Coupon-mad

If you say you are seeking debt advice they HAVE TO give you 30 days hold.  If you don't want to delay it,then don't use that phrase at all.

Why not ask for their client's evidence to enable you to identify the event, location and driver from images, and a photo of the contract (the sign) in situ on the material date.

anotheronewasted

Coupon-mad said:

If you say you are seeking debt advice they HAVE TO give you 30 days hold.  If you don't want to delay it,then don't use that phrase at all.

Why not ask for their client's evidence to enable you to identify the event, location and driver from images, and a photo of the contract (the sign) in situ on the material date.

Ah OK, that makes sense.
I hadn't even considering asking these sort of questions.
I (wrongly) assumed that all tat would come later.
Just trawling through some of the letters, and I received 'demands' from 6 different companies, I'm guessing some are all part of one group, but still, very aggressive tactics.

• Debt Recovery Plus Ltd. x4
• Zenith Collections x3
• SCS Law x1
• ZZPS x1
• QDR Solicitors x2
• Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd x4

Quite persistent!

Anyway, based on your comments Coupon-mad, i think I will mail DCDLegal with the following:

Ref. <redacted>

I write this mail in reference to a letter received 20.01.2023.

The letter is dated 16 January 2023

Your ref. <redacted>

Titled "Letter of Claim"

This letter pertains to an alleged PCN (Parking CHARGE Notice)

PCN ref. <redacted>, issued on 20.07.2019

The reason quoted as "Parked for longer than the maximum period permitted"

Due to the lack of information contained within your letter, i am unable to verify this.

Therefore i cannot accept any alleged debt. 

In order to help me identify this alleged event, can you please provide evidence (photographs) of such that identifies the location, date, time and driver of the aforementioned vehicle during said time, along with a clear, high resolution image (photograph) of the contract in situ on the date of the alleged breech.

In parallel to this I have submitted an SAR request to your client, UK Parking Control Limited.

Please confirm that this email has been received, read and understood.

And that my free request as stated above is upheld.

Yours Faithfully

Thanks again for the help