Alternative Fuel Payment

ProDave

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Spoonie_Turtle said:

 You can find out if your specific postcode is counted as having mains gas or not

https://www.xoserve.com/media/fadn4tnc/off-gas-live-postcodes2022.xlsx?term=Off-gas

That URL has a slight typo...

It should be: https://www.xoserve.com/media/fadn4tnc/off-gas-live-postcodes-2022.xlsx?term=Off-gas

Does anyone know if that list means all properties in the listed postcodes will get the alternative fuel payment, or is there further filtering on an individual properties data?

Spoonie_Turtle

ProDave said:

PhilHornby said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

 You can find out if your specific postcode is counted as having mains gas or not

https://www.xoserve.com/media/fadn4tnc/off-gas-live-postcodes2022.xlsx?term=Off-gas

That URL has a slight typo...

It should be: https://www.xoserve.com/media/fadn4tnc/off-gas-live-postcodes-2022.xlsx?term=Off-gas

Does anyone know if that list means all properties in the listed postcodes will get the alternative fuel payment, or is there further filtering on an individual properties data?

Further filtering - that list is the starting point, then they look at census data to see what the predominant form of heating is.  If it's electric, the postcode is excluded and alternative fuel users there will have to apply for the payment.

For an idea, here https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/housing/articles/census2021howhomesareheatedinyourarea/2023-01-05
BUT I don't know if that level of area is the same the government looked at for heating, so no guarantees it'll match up with being on or off the list.

Qyburn

That seems to cover only England an Wales. Anyone know how it's being handled in Scotland?

Rodders53

Qyburn said:

That seems to cover only England an Wales. Anyone know how it's being handled in Scotland?

Google found me this https://www.mygov.scot/help-energy-bills 
Any help?  Looks the same as England and Wales to me.

The postcode Excel spreadsheet linked to earlier in the thread includes ABerdeen postodes at the very beginning...

Spoonie_Turtle

Qyburn said:

That seems to cover only England an Wales. Anyone know how it's being handled in Scotland?

Census data from 2011.  I don't know where you'd find that, sorry.

Apodemus

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Qyburn said:

That seems to cover only England an Wales. Anyone know how it's being handled in Scotland?

Census data from 2011.  I don't know where you'd find that, sorry.

I managed to check my local area in Scotland, a couple of weeks ago, so it is possible.  Sadly, I can't for the life of me remember where I found the info!   

Apodemus

Found it!  There are a number of ways into the 2011 census data, but this link allows you to search the results by postcode:  https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/search-the-census#/explore  Central heating type is under the Household info link.  The last time I went into this, I was able to access it by a map view, under heating type, but I wasn't able to get down that particular rabbit-hole this time.

ProDave

Apodemus said:

Found it!  There are a number of ways into the 2011 census data, but this link allows you to earch the results by postcode:  https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/search-the-census#/explore  Central heating type is under the Household info link.  The last time I went into this, I was able to access it by a map view, under heating type, but I wasn't able to get down that particular rabbit-hole this time.

Interesting. My house was not built in 2011 so is not on that census.  I wonder how that will be handled?  I suspect a manual claim may be needed.

If they just go by the postcode, only 3.3% (one house I believe) has "gas central heating" but he is on bulk LPG as no mains gas is here.  33% on oil is the largest.

dunstonh

If they just go by the postcode, only 3.3% (one house I believe) has "gas central heating" but he is on bulk LPG as no mains gas is here.  33% on oil is the largest.

The post code list is those fully without the supply of mains gas.  Have you checked the postcode list to see if yours is on there?

ProDave

dunstonh said:

If they just go by the postcode, only 3.3% (one house I believe) has "gas central heating" but he is on bulk LPG as no mains gas is here.  33% on oil is the largest.

The post code list is those fully without the supply of mains gas.  Have you checked the postcode list to see if yours is on there?

Yes ours is on the postcode list, there is no mains gas.  I was forming the opinion they then looked at the census data to see what alternatives were being used.  There is a mixture in this postcode but there is no information on a property by property basis, just an average for the postcode.